mwee Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Hi, Would like to ask the Panerai experts on this forum on their opinion on this new DSN Pam 82. How does it compare to the gen? What are the glaring flaws? I like this watch but have always have a problem in pulling the trigger on a Pam due to the many flaws pointed out. Therefore, any opinions on this particular model would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADRED7 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 The numbers are way too greenish....and the caseback is not...errrh lets say not 1st class. I saw the NEW and UPGRADED DSN PAM082 some minutes ago....wow, he really improved this model, I love it. With the new C1 lume it is on top of my WANTED-list right now Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 The numbers are way too greenish....and the caseback is not...errrh lets say not 1st class. I saw the NEW and UPGRADED DSN PAM082 some minutes ago....wow, he really improved this model, I love it. With the new C1 lume it is on top of my WANTED-list right now Theo theo...thanks for the comments...this is on top of my list too... can you tell me if the gen comes with blue or black hands...I think I saw pics of the rep with both, blue and black hands...or were just the lights on the pics playing tricks with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 why did he make the case back not accurate???? the image of the ship is inverted now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) Nobody else noticed that the markers are pushed in from the edges too far now? Just like his new 001A and 002A dials? Look at where the vertical marks on the seconds dial line up with the 8 and 10 hour markers.... He *had* updated his original 082 dial to be just C1 bright white lume. This new dial is a step back, IMO. Edited April 25, 2008 by peepshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 here we go with a couple of pics of the gen just for reference, so the real discussion about DSN's accuracy can start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) The caseback looks correct to me.... Edited April 25, 2008 by peepshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 it seems that the watch doesn't have the numbers stamped on the back...maybe the watch in the pics is one of the prototype samples...cause it would be another thing that was present in the previous versions and not on this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Yeah, didn't even notice that. Perhaps he had to switch cases due to the shortage of Ti? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 what is the color of the hands on the gen and what is the color of DSN hands?...does anybody know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Black on the gen and black on DSN's watches. Including the seconds hand. Here is a pic of DSN's "old" 82 dial with C1 lume. Notice the difference of the location of the indices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 look at this pic (i think it's from one member from this forum...hope he won't mind posting it)... but the hands appear to be blue...maybe it was custom made to match the dial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 DSN's 082 is excellent. The markers are correctly spaced from the border of the dial -- possibly even a tiny bit less than the gen, surely not more. The caseback is incredible. The hands on the gen are black. OP, BB and serial numbers on the gen are engraved on the case (like in Radiomirs), not on the caseback. Here are two high resolution scans from the OP official catalog for you to compare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwee Posted April 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 guys, Thanks for all the opinions, really appreciate. looking at DSN's pics, it does seems that peepshow has a point about the markers being pushed in from the edges too far. Also, I have another quation about the markers. The DSN pic show the markers are raised or sausage dial? But a lot of pics I saw on the net seems to show a flat dial with painted markers? Can any please verify this and correct me if I am wrong? I have attached a pic of a gen Pam 82 fro reference. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanya Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Caseback Officine Panerai font is off. Nice looking piece though. Hell of alot of quality for the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Well, the closer I look at the gen photos, the more I realize that DSN's original dial had the markers pushed a bit too far out to the edges. So, the new dial might be *just* a bit too pushed inwards. When it comes right down to it, there was only 300 made, so any of these difference we're pointing out after STUDYING side by side hi res photos are really splitting hairs. The 082 is still a VERY accurate rep, whether it's the V.1 dial or the V.2 dial. Oh, the gen dials are all engraved and then filled with lume, so a "sausage" or painted rep dial is as close as you're going to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwee Posted April 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Peepshow, Thanks for the information on the dial. Now I know on the difference between the pics of the gen and reps. Love the watch, now have to decide if I want this or HBB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 The 82 would get my vote. I had an HBB for a few weeks, it just wasn't "me". Good luck, they're both great reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 I still can't understand how to feel DSN markers pushed too inside after looking at the gen pic I posted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRiddle Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 hey!!! that's my PAM 082 wit teh blue hands!!! yes i purposely requested it to have blue hands i wanted it to be 'unique' lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwee Posted April 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Sssurfer, I am sure you are right. You guys are the experts, that's why I posted to ask for your opinion? Maybe its wishful thinking but I was hoping to find the perfect Pam rep! After peeshow's nformation the how the markers are engraved in the gen, it kind of dampen my enthusiasm for this watch. Peepshow, Thanks. Now its which HBB to buy if I do decide to go with that? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 I was hoping to find the perfect Pam rep! Unfortunately, there is no such thing like a perfect Pam rep in this world... ... but I would say that DSN's 088 gets quite close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboGUATE Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 For me this new version is not what I was expecting. The case, movement and serial numbers are gone. And the image of the Vespucci is inverted in the engraving (instead of being polished). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 the image of the Vespucci is inverted in the engraving (instead of being polished). Oh my! You are absolutely right! I did not notice that until you pointed at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 I still can't understand how to feel DSN markers pushed too inside after looking at the gen pic I posted... It's pretty simple, after looking at the pictures of the gen and DSN's new dial, I still think DSN's markers are still a little too pushed towards the center compared to the gen. If you disagree, that's fine. It's all a matter of opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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