Moevement question

[Pingutime]

Hi there all,

Can anyone tell if this movement is real Eta or copy Eta. Watch is about one year old an runs on the second.

Just curious.

Thanx :-)

[DemonSlayer]

That's real ETA.

[Tee]

Hey DemonSlayer,

This is my first post, and I've read quite a few threads about how to determine whether certain movements are real Swiss ETA movements or ETA clones. I've read the gold vs nickel plating argument, the stamped vs painted logo argument, etc. How did you determine that Pingutime's gold plated ETA, Omega signed rotor movement is a real [swiss] ETA movement?

Does ETA actually engrave the Omega logo on certain movements that are designated for Omega watches? I'm not aware of any real Omega watches having a pure ETA movement with an Omega signed rotor. This indicates the engraving is done by rep manufacturers?

For example, take a look at these photos from nicereplicas.com

1. Unsigned gold rotor in an Omega Seamaster, touted to be a real Swiss ETA movement.

http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/09/25/2008092513015979024.jpg

2. Another Omega Seamaster, but like Pingutime's, the rotor is signed, and is touted to be a real Swiss ETA

http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/01/12/2008011214153854948.jpg

Nicereplicas.com has similar photos for Rolexes. Only the Tudor series uses ETA movements and the rotors are signed Tudor, not Rolex.

3. A Submariner with a Rolex signed rotor, touted to be a real Swiss ETA movement

http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/05/06/2008050600295795077.jpg

4. A Datejust with a Rolex signed rotor, touted to be a real Swiss ETA movement.

http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/07/30/2008073014332177650.jpg I have a datejust purchased from nicereplicas.com a short time ago and the movement looks identical to the one pictured above. So is this movement a genuine Swiss ETA-2836-2?

The final question is: If these are authentic Swiss ETA movements, is the "unauthentic" watch brand engraving put on the rotors for the purpose of fortifying that the movements are authentic? To me it makes no difference since none of the genuine watches have ETA movements, but since these are touted to be Swiss movements, the watch brand engraving does not add to the proof? What do you think?

[Shundi]

Omega uses ETA movements almost exclusively- they just modify them.

[Tee]

Omega uses ETA movements almost exclusively- they just modify them.

Yes, you're correct. However, Omega movements do not have any ETA labeling. They only have Omega labeling. The movements I've mentioned above from the nicereplica.com site are stamped ETA and the rotors are engraved Omega or Rolex.