21J movement issues. Buy new or have serviced?

[ZainoDetail]

Gents: my PAM 005 rep has a 21J movement in it that appears as though it's starting to give up on me. (randomly loosing time and /or stopping The watch has run almost constantly for over 2 years now without missing a beat. Since having The Zigmeister lume the watch and install a palp crown over a year ago it doesn't leave my wrist. The others in the collection simply sit there collecting dust.

Ahynow, as I understand it the 21J movements are dirt cheap....but is there a source for 21J movements that come lubricated and ready for install as if it's a "better" option than having the current movement serviced I'll just buy a new one and have it installed. BUT if that new movement will also need serviced to insure longevity then I might as well just send the current movement to The Zigmeister to be serviced.

Thanks for any feedback.

[Fidestro]

The 21J is not worth servicing, just replace it! I don't know of a watchmaker that will service one because they are so cheap. I don't think The Zigmeister would bother with it. The 21j is supposed to be well oiled and in good shape when new from the factory.

[ZainoDetail]

Any pointers on where to source a new movement?

[blue_sphere]

Any dealer will have them...

[Fidestro]

I think you can source one from Otto Frei in the US and Cousins in the UK.

[unkindone]

is there a replacement for the 21J in the Frank Muller Crazy hours? ^__^

[alphakazi]

21J is not an actual movement but a class of cheap asian movements without any complications - they don't even need to have 21 jewels - common examples are the DG2813 (21,600) and the DG4813 (28,800) - I buy the 2813 for about $10 locally (Toronto, Canada)

http://www.somalcanada.com/

find out the exact movement in there (modified?)

[ZainoDetail]

hummm...I'll see if I can take the back off and get a picture of the exact movement in order for you guys to help me identify it. Thanks for the insight.

[P_Diddy]

For an Explorer I, is it easy to swap in and out a replacement 2813 movement?

cheers

21J is not an actual movement but a class of cheap asian movements without any complications - they don't even need to have 21 jewels - common examples are the DG2813 (21,600) and the DG4813 (28,800) - I buy the 2813 for about $10 locally (Toronto, Canada)

http://www.somalcanada.com/

find out the exact movement in there (modified?)

[kbh]

The Pam 005 comes with a 6497 hand wind movement doesn't it? Never seen one with a 21j.