ZainoDetail Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Gents: my PAM 005 rep has a 21J movement in it that appears as though it's starting to give up on me. (randomly loosing time and /or stopping The watch has run almost constantly for over 2 years now without missing a beat. Since having The Zigmeister lume the watch and install a palp crown over a year ago it doesn't leave my wrist. The others in the collection simply sit there collecting dust. Ahynow, as I understand it the 21J movements are dirt cheap....but is there a source for 21J movements that come lubricated and ready for install as if it's a "better" option than having the current movement serviced I'll just buy a new one and have it installed. BUT if that new movement will also need serviced to insure longevity then I might as well just send the current movement to The Zigmeister to be serviced. Thanks for any feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidestro Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 The 21J is not worth servicing, just replace it! I don't know of a watchmaker that will service one because they are so cheap. I don't think The Zigmeister would bother with it. The 21j is supposed to be well oiled and in good shape when new from the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZainoDetail Posted October 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Any pointers on where to source a new movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_sphere Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Any dealer will have them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidestro Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I think you can source one from Otto Frei in the US and Cousins in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkindone Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 is there a replacement for the 21J in the Frank Muller Crazy hours? ^__^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphakazi Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 21J is not an actual movement but a class of cheap asian movements without any complications - they don't even need to have 21 jewels - common examples are the DG2813 (21,600) and the DG4813 (28,800) - I buy the 2813 for about $10 locally (Toronto, Canada) http://www.somalcanada.com/ find out the exact movement in there (modified?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZainoDetail Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 hummm...I'll see if I can take the back off and get a picture of the exact movement in order for you guys to help me identify it. Thanks for the insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Diddy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 For an Explorer I, is it easy to swap in and out a replacement 2813 movement? cheers 21J is not an actual movement but a class of cheap asian movements without any complications - they don't even need to have 21 jewels - common examples are the DG2813 (21,600) and the DG4813 (28,800) - I buy the 2813 for about $10 locally (Toronto, Canada) http://www.somalcanada.com/ find out the exact movement in there (modified?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 The Pam 005 comes with a 6497 hand wind movement doesn't it? Never seen one with a 21j. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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