yachtmaster Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hey guys, is there a panerai with a black sausage dial(111F,001) w/ seconds hand but on a Titanium case with a closed caseback? I know theres a pam 61 with a tobacco, but what about one with a black dial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hey guys, is there a panerai with a black sausage dial(111F,001) w/ seconds hand but on a Titanium case with a closed caseback? I know theres a pam 61 with a tobacco, but what about one with a black dial? The black susage dial with Ti case and closed back exists, it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Oh and I forgot to mention that the 040 doesn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) That's a gen 040 in my avatar. DSN makes a 040 rep, but it uses his 061 C series caseback, which is, of course, wrong for the B series 040. FYI Edited December 4, 2008 by peepshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yeah, the PAM040 is the only one and it had a 'T' dial, which I presume is what you mean by the 'sausage' term - i.e. raised sausage-like markers rather than the flat Luminova markers. Otherwise the black dial didn't appear in a titanium case until the G series 177, which had a display back, the last of the 'PANERAI' engraved movements and the last of the non-sandwich dials. Therefore, non-sandwich black dialled titanium models are limited to the 040B and the G177 with 200 units and 500 units respectively - not common at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtmaster Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) Oh wow you guys know everything... but i see i see. Thanks guys. I was wondering sausage dial is not the same as painted dial? What I meant was painted dial and not sandwhich with a closed caseback. Edited December 5, 2008 by yachtmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Oh wow you guys know everything... but i see i see. Thanks guys. I was wondering sausage dial is not the same as painted dial? What I meant was painted dial and not sandwhich with a closed caseback. The only 44mm handwind Panerai dial which could reasonable be termed as having a 'sausage' appearance is the T SWISS T dial in the A or early B series. These had raised markers and the straight batons at 1, 2, 4, 5 etc were vaguely sausage like in appearance. The only one that fits your criteria is the PAM040. The regular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 PAMman, I agree with you 100% but I have often heard EVERY non-sandwich Historic dial referred to as "sausage". Painted dials usually refer to the Contemporary dials that are not engraved and lume-filled, but simply have the lume applied to the surface of the dial. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerblade Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Couple of quick pictures of my home made 040 I used the DSN closed caseback & for the sharp eyed, yes it has a black seconds hand as there was supposed to be 6 or 7 made for the japanese market. I actually prefer it with the black hands as it seems more in balance with the main hands. Gen pic for comparison (guess where I found out about the black hands) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I think modern "painted dial" historics still have a recess or paper thin top layer with punched through numerals. This is so the lumed dial has a flat finish. This video shows a dial being lumed Best FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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