Guilloche dials on VC?

[hackR]

Hi...i googled what a guilloche dial is - which means i kinda/sorta get it...i am checking out VC white face watches...some of the watches have a nice "textured" design...of the ones that have a "textured" design, some dealers advertise using the term "guilloche" dial...i have seen what appear to be identical watch dials, with one advertised as "guilloche" and one not...so my question is: what makes an dial "guilloche" and another not?...might they be the same dial - and it's a dealer approach...

here's an example...I am looking at a VC classic Chronographe...

watcheden has 21179 advertised as "guilloche white dial"...lemania movement...attached picture with brown leather strap...watcheden_VC_chrono_lemania_guilloche.bmp

watcheden has 11420 advertised as "white dial"...lemania movement...attached picture with black leather strap...watcheden_VC_chrono_lemania.bmp

dearwatches has 11333 advertised as "white dial"...asian 21j movement...attached picture with rolex3u watermark...(this watch is approx $100 usd less than lemania movement...worth it?!...hmmm)

all 3 of these watches appear to have a "textured" dial...i know if i ask the dealer, this discussion could go round-and-round...

so how can you tell?...are they all the same?...do they diff if the watch is made by diff factories?...is there a difference is detail?...

thanks...R

Edited December 20, 2008 by rhack1

[Corgi]

I don't think a rep can ever come close to mimicking the actual guilloch

[archibald]

I don't think a rep can ever come close to mimicking the actual guilloch

[FxrAndy]

You can watch Jochen Benzinger making a Guillochiert Dial here and then wonder why we only get stamped in the reps, I think that some of the stamped dials we get in reps are nice though.