scotty Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Few minutes to kill....thought I'd post these. Sorry about the pics - from my mobile at the desk. Opinions? Think the movement is Swiss, but can't decide if stamped or engraved. I'm thinking stamped, but actually looks quite clean. Dial is a good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Cheers lads....! Overwhelmed with the feedback.... Can anyone verify the movement pedigree - Swiss / Swinese? Engraved or stamped - I think stamped..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Nice watch ..looking good! Movement wise -it certainly looks like a swiss balance assembly with early version asian bridges that look "stamped" rather than engraved. These were often sold as Swiss by dealers. I couldn't say on a % split of origin on this one though from the photos as the pearlage baseplate is not normally found on swiss parts used in rep Panerai movements this is making me think ETA clone and therefore possibly 100% Asian Is it stamped ETA 6497-1 beneath the balance wheel? Either way if it runs well then don't worry about it FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmurphy926 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I haven't seen a rep 113 dial with the different finish subdial yet...nice!! Where did that come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Thanks gents. Like I say - mini Franken. Started off as a watch I bought from a member here......who should know what he sold me movement wise (Swiss or Asian)..... The case was marked, and I had a bit of luck acquiring a gen dial. So it went to VAC for rebuilding.... * new case * new crown * DSN hands * gen dial * carry-over crystal, crown guard and case back. The DSN hands match the dial lume colour 99%. Same for lume intensity, which is fine when charged but does actually drop relatively quickly. I think due to a very small surface area. I'm looking for a new case-back with correct series letter, but so far no luck. Has a few scratches on the bezel, and I'm not sure how best to tackle these - cape cod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Looks great, Scotty! The gen dial makes all the difference in the world. Yep, a cape cod cloth should handle those scratches for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Thanks Peeps. Much appreciated... Crappy pics from a Nokia 5800 - and even when I try with a decent camera my results are far from many of those posted here.... Before the gen dial the 113 had a DSN dial which was fine, but the lack of subdial recession was so obvious. I really don't know why no-one has fixed that until now. The gen dial cost a small fortune - was it worth it???? But now visually a huge difference. V.Pleased. I've always loved the white faced PAM's. My watchsmith recommended NOT to use a cloth or similar, as it may leave a slightly flatter spot. He proposed removing the bezel and polishing the scratches out on a wheel. He's got my Fiddy currently to re-set the hands (they're not 100% parallel to the dial, and the minute hand has a small deformation where it fits the cannon pin). Will probably give a cloth a try to see. If I screw up - off to my watchsmith..... Now debating what to do with my Slytech. Bought it from Schulz here (great guy). Has the black dial superlumed by Dr Ziggy, but came with a spare white dial and hands set. I'm debating to change to the white dial......not decided yet..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitai Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) double post. Sorry Edited February 12, 2009 by jitai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitai Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I think your 113 comes with a E serial movt. Hence the H serial see thru caseback is incorrect. I have 2pcs of E serial movt caseback from the cartel. It will help to make your 113 more accurate. PM me if you are interested. Nice gen dial BTW. Here's my white pam114F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweattdogg Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Closed caseback will really make that hard to tell from gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I think your 113 comes with a E serial movt. Hence the H serial see thru caseback is incorrect. I have 2pcs of E serial movt caseback from the cartel. It will help to make your 113 more accurate. PM me if you are interested. Nice gen dial BTW. Here's my white pam114F Beautiful piece. You've a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Hio mate, long time no speak yup, closed caseback or e-series one, both quite tricky to find but if Jitai has one on offer - get it while still can :-) Saw that mov't myself, it's the first e-series Swiss ETA version with pointy needle S/N, definitely not Asian, bridges and decos are, but the drivetrain is ETA 6497-1 slower beat. Wear it in good health and keep in touch! cheers, babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Hio mate, long time no speak yup, closed caseback or e-series one, both quite tricky to find but if Jitai has one on offer - get it while still can :-) Saw that mov't myself, it's the first e-series Swiss ETA version with pointy needle S/N, definitely not Asian, bridges and decos are, but the drivetrain is ETA 6497-1 slower beat. Wear it in good health and keep in touch! cheers, babola Hi stranger........getting any sleep?????? Thanx all. Jitai - you have a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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