Zack G. Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Hello everyone, I am relatively new to this site and I just picked up a used HBB SS from another forum member. I had a quick question. When I hold up the watch and I hit the lowest pusher, it seems that the dial itself moves when the pusher is pushed in? Is that normal? Does that mean the dial is not affixed correctly and is loose? The dial doesn't move around if I move the watch around, only if the pushers are pushed in. Thank you for any feedback on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Sounds like the mvmt is a little loose. Theres a couple of tabs that hold the movement into the case, pop the back and make sure they are tight. You can see two at the bottom and one at the top in this pic of a SFSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack G. Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Sounds like the mvmt is a little loose. Theres a couple of tabs that hold the movement into the case, pop the back and make sure they are tight. You can see two at the bottom and one at the top in this pic of a SFSO. Upon closer observation, I noticed the dial and or movement is a little loose just by moving the watch around up and down. You can hear little "clicks" when the watch is moved up and down. I tried to do exactly as you described, however the same thing happens. The tabs were already pretty tight when I opened the case back. Is this just a faulty watch? Edited April 3, 2009 by Zack G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Upon closer observation, I noticed the dial and or movement is a little loose just by moving the watch around up and down. You can hear little "clicks" when the watch is moved up and down. I tried to do exactly as you described, however the same thing happens. The tabs were already pretty tight when I opened the case back. Is this just a faulty watch? When you checked the tabs and they were tight, was the movement still loose and moving around? Can you see it moving around through the display case back? It sounds like the dial itself may be loose, but that leads me to more questions. How many tabs were there? This could be a simple repair for your local watchsmith, $20-$30ish. Pictures may help if you can post some. Movement side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack G. Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) When you checked the tabs and they were tight, was the movement still loose and moving around? Can you see it moving around through the display case back? It sounds like the dial itself may be loose, but that leads me to more questions. How many tabs were there? This could be a simple repair for your local watchsmith, $20-$30ish. Pictures may help if you can post some. Movement side. I believe there were only 2 tabs once I open the case back. There was one on the bottom, and then another one at the top (had to move the rotor a little to uncover that one). If I bring this watch to a local watchsmith (at the mall, etc.), do you think they will be able to tighten it up somehow? I am not sure if its the dial that moves or the movement (or if the movement and dial is one piece - when it comes to watches I am not very technical and don't know if they are attached to one another or not). Thank you for your help. Edited April 3, 2009 by Zack G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack G. Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) I also forgot to say that looking only at the dial visually, you can see that the dial moves only VERY LITTLE. However, when your holding the watch in your hand, or if its on the wrist you can definitely feel that something inside (dial and or movement) is loose. Looking through the case back, its not noticeable visually that anything moves (I am not sure if the spinning rotor is throwing it off visually). Thank You Edited April 3, 2009 by Zack G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 You could also email the dealer and see what your options are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack G. Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 You could also email the dealer and see what your options are... I purchased this watch used from another member here. However I am aware of that this HBB was one of the few that were produced and they came from Angus (PureTime). I will email who I bought it from and see what they say. I also brought it to a local watch repair shop today, however the watchsmith wasn't in, so I will try back tomorrow. Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 are you sure you're not just hearing the rotor move? The dial is attached to the movement with dial feet. Little prongs that stick out of the underside of the dial and insert into the movement. Does the watch have a display case back? Watch for movement through it if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack G. Posted April 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 (edited) are you sure you're not just hearing the rotor move? The dial is attached to the movement with dial feet. Little prongs that stick out of the underside of the dial and insert into the movement. Does the watch have a display case back? Watch for movement through it if so. I'm positive that its not just the rotor spinning which is causing the dial to move. I didn't get a chance to bring the watch in today since I was busy but I will stop by the local watchsmith this week and will report back. I hope this is a small easy fix (seems like something needs to be tightened inside - although I only saw 2 screws on the back movement when I open the case back and they seemed tight already). Edited April 4, 2009 by Zack G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Ok, hoping you have a cheap and quick fix on your hands. Sounds like it. Let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyberetta Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 I had the same problem on a HBB I owned. It was the case/movement clamps. They were tight, but they were bent and would no hold tight against the case. I bent them slightly and it fit tight again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack G. Posted April 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) I had the same problem on a HBB I owned. It was the case/movement clamps. They were tight, but they were bent and would no hold tight against the case. I bent them slightly and it fit tight again. Unfortunately I don't have the skills or expertise needed to try and attempt bending any clasps myself. I fear of possibly damaging something even more. However it didn't seem that those 2 clamps which I mentioned in my previous post were bent at all. They looked straight. I tried again tonight and opened the caseback(mine is see through non Tuiga version). This time I figured I would try and simply put my finger on top of the rotor and apply a little pressure to the back of the rotor while I was holding the watch up directly facing me and while I applied minimal pressure with my pointer finger it seemed that the dial and movement didn't move at all. It seems that it's like lacking some pressure against the rotor since applying minimal force helped. Offcourse it went back to being loose when I took my finger off the rotor. I hope my explanation made some sense. Thank you and I will report back after my visit to the watchsmith. Edited April 5, 2009 by Zack G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack G. Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Just wanted to post a quick update. I took the watch in today finally to my local watchsmith and he told me that all of the tabs were nice and tight, etc. He said that the movement is a tad too big for the case, that is why it seems to "move around' somewhat. Is this normal? Is this something that has to be taken into account for it being a rep? I am really thinking of returning this watch to the seller, as it can get annoying at times and doesn't feel right. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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