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Some good points have been brought up here by Cougar and Adeodatus...these pics are not helping Josh nor nwolf. I thought maybe the bezel was just off a click...after hearing Josh say the bezel was fine...I tried to look at my own PO with the bezel off one click. The thing is my PO looks like It;s off a click. The pearl Is clearly to the right or left of the 12 hour marker. The qc pics are not clear enough to say the same...No matter how long and hard (thats what she said) ..I look at those qc pics..I cant say with 100% certainty that the bezel Is ok. I also have to agree with the other comments here...how fooking hard Is It to take a "straight on" picture. I suck at taking pics but I can take a straight on shot. These angle shots are cute...but these are not whats needed when selling a watch. I believe Josh when he says that there is nothing wrong with a watch...that being said...sometimes dealers make mistakes...for a varity of reasons. Being extremely busy Im sure Is one of them.. It seems like anytime...anywhere..when someone questions a qc pic...the answer Is always the same. "Watch Is fine...may I procede?" I think this Is Chinese for.." [censored] you round eyes...I send you watch anyway" Mike

I swear to FSM that this is 100% true, its literally a dream come true... I have dreamt of a scenario like this and still can't believe it actually happened. I guess this is an unintended consequence of our hobby and one I gladly accept. We've all heard the stories of people buying what they thought was a genuine Rolex only to find out it was indeed a fake. Some fakes are excellent and hard to tell, some are franken watches. Regardless, the extent our hobby has come has made some people so gun shy of certain watches they don't know what they have. There's a pawn shop I frequent in south Florida, mostly for guitar and Hi-Fi related items. The owner plays in a band and is always moving gear in and out of his collection so there is usually something nice and unique, not the usual made in China garbage guitars or beat to crap usual pawn shop fare. As I walked in yesterday I started up a conversation with the owner, we talked guitars and I mentioned that I noticed he no longer had any watches in the jewlery case. He told me he is no longer taking watches in pawn. He said he was burned twice in the last few months on Breiltlings and would never look at one again. He told me he had one last Rolex that was being put on the shelf today but again he said he was burned on this one and it was a good fake/ franken. I asked to see it. He brought out a 1999 A series 14060 No-Date Sub. I did not want to tip my hand, and oddly enough I had just been reading up a lot on this model so I asked what made him think it was fake....could I open it. He said, "Don't bother, we measured this with a caliper and the dimensions are all wrong for a Submariner, this is the only way we use to determine fakes as the movements can be real.......blah blah blah" after that I turned off my ears. I knew what was going on.......... He was comparing the dimensions for a Date Sub to a Non-Date Sub. Well, that won't work! Different cases, different diameter dials, different bezel diameters...the only things that swap on those two models are the crown, hands and bracelet. I asked the price, he said to the best of his knowledge the bracelet was real, and since it was a "really good replica" he wanted $1699.99. A LOT FOR A REPLICA!!!! I asked if he could do better since it was a fake and he said he knew what good frankens went for and as the bracelet was real,and since it hadn't been on display yet he was firm. I checked this over with a loupe for a while, analyzing every last detail, then I said I wanted to think about it as I drove like a bat out of hell home to grab some cash, praying it would still be there when I returned 20 min later. I didn't want to put a deposit or give any indication I was as excited as I was. I got back there, asked to see the watch again,piut it on my wrist, plunked down $1802.99 the price plus tax, said thanks and drove straight to Tourneau. Checked out 100%. Went to Hamiltons, checked out 100%, Went to my local Rolex authorized repairman I use, checked out 100%. I am amazed. The fact that our reps have gotten as good as they are has resulted in me getting a watch I could NEVER afford ($3,500-$5,000 on used market) for a lot, lot, lot less. I have spent all day staring at this watch, waiting to wake up from this dream. I frequent the PMWF.com also and my entire collection is from pawn shops and flea markets in south florida. Its a unique area of tourists, older people and rich people living beyond their means. This makes for some unique and wonderful finds. It takes a lot of work and I devote many hours each week hunting for these kinds of deals. This one made the hundreds of fruitless journeys worth every last second.

Chou, i do get what you're saying and I totally agree with the details on rwi, but in this case it's a slightly different scenario, rather than nitpicking over the details we are complaining that we can't nitpick because the pics were not good enough. They need less artistically angled shots and pay simple attention to getting in at least one or two shots where the watch can be clearly seen. But really what I'm thinking is I see a chance and an opening to organise an overhaul of the whole QC pic format with the dealers, it's gonna be amazing, we are going down the full artistic route, here are some previews of how qc will look in the near future: Water shots are always good, instils confidence and longing in the buyer! The addition of ropes and beach stones always add a rugged outdoor look and feel What female could resist this, warm and homely: Hmmm Chocolate: Rugged, hard rich bstard would wear this: We are even gonna hire some clooney lookalikes to model our reps: And a team of artists will provide a drawing of the new rep for a small charge:

Really?! That's new. I'd think he would say: "Fock you round eyes...I send you watch anyway" ROFL j/k @nwolf1716: Enjoy the watch, man. If it's perfect to you - it's perfect. Have to agree with chou here. Out of sheer interest - did Josh say it's a new watch or that he sends a better images of the same one?

Tudor as well here!

Merci beaucoup! Vive la France!

PAM202A on a French ammo for today.

does the bezel look completely aligned? It could just be the angle of the picture but it doesn't seem to lined up near the 20 and 30? Maybe I have no idea!

It doesn't get any better. Perfection. Cheers!