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Thoughts about panerai and their history... About a year ago I took down my frogman statue because although I think he's cool (a highly skilled well equipted diver) the history of the frogmen is distasteful. Now at this point I am sure alot of responses will be.. “Modern Panerai has nothing to do with Fascism or the anti-Semetism of 60yrs ago!!”.. however i think this is not always true for several reasons.. One is that modern Panerai has built up a following today by stongly associating the brand with vintage products and the strong history of being a tool watch for military use, hence it has had to set and achieve higher standards than for the public so you should like it more. And second that once a collector is drawn to Panerai the modern watches lose there appeal and they are overtime drawn to more and more vintage items so much so that panerai WIS sometimes build and assemble their own ‘vintage homage’ and are as such are drawn closer to the association of the history. How do you feel and/or how do you balance the strong negativity associated with panerai and your modern day collecting and feelings about the brand? Any one that posts in this thread must set a high standard of thoughtfulness and respect and I trust that the mods will censor any posts deemed inflamatory or divisive. Remember this Forum is about watches and our common uniting hobby.

Right this is a blue peter moment (Please ecuse the crappy iphone pics) Thanks to Rolojack i can show you all how to make a vintage silver flat 3 open 6&9 DWO I took a screen shot of his image in the DWO thread converted it to black and white in word and resized it. This needs nothing more than A decent inkjet printer Some self adhesive clear lables your old metal DWOs a bit of scotch bright a sharp craft knife (please get help from grown ups when cutting) Nail varnish remover or isopopenol alcohol A sunday morning with out the shakes Right First get all your old DWOs that are made of metal and a couple of date wheels for 2836/46 and chuck them in alcohol or nail varnish remover and remove all the old printing (this will save microns of clearance space) Once it is all clean take your scotch brite and brush the overlay blank you should end up with some thing like this Now we cut out one of our preprinted clear adhesive over lays and stick it as central as you can to the blank The get an adult to cut away the excess and you will be let with what we want a brushed silver flat 3, open 6&9 overlay now you may have dont it already but remove all the printing and ink from the date wheel And fit it to your movement Next we need some thing to attach the DWO to the DW, i like using clear nail varnish as it sets slowly and can be revoved easily, Dial dots are also good but think about clearance if you go this route Tiny dabs are all you need, Now add the DWO over the top lining the center of one number with the stem Fit you dial and check the positioning of all numbers over (wind the watch forwards and get the date to change as you got through 12am rather t6han jjust click forward in the date set position) there will be slight variation Adjust if nesesary and try again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again untill you are happy two slightly better pictures As we can see here the 20s need to move over to the right a touch, not sure if roloJack could do that??? as the rest are good The printing is better than the pictures actualy show and as good as my MBW DWO in my great white but not as perfect as my gen (The one above was a lower print quality than the one under the rail dial) I think we are moving in the right direction I think if i vectorised the image it would be better, can some one here do that? Many thanks to Rolojack for creating the image in the first place (let me know if you want a few of these) Do not all PM me asking me to make you one as i only have 3 blanks. Platinum members for a small donation to the postage can have the stickers for free, but it would be better if it was vectorised and prfesionaly printed. Thank you for reading and now your thoughts please as to the positioning, font size, and boldness

Thanks My friend iBrid - Instigator and architect of the joint where I acquired this unit - Promoter, coordinator, manager and giving me the post for the scoop of the Hornback, Thanks Vincent. Background There are many possibilities we have to get to know different aspects of our male personality. Each man is different, and that difference is reflected in everything that surrounds our individual and lifestyle. Our dress, our favorite drink, your sport and the type of music we hear, or just that special place we choose to lose, are some of the clues we have to discover. But what really defines the style and personality of a man is his watch. Something so simple yet so hard. The watches speak of their owners, and are able to transmit detailed, subtle notes on how to be the wearer. AP Royal Oak Offshore Replica Ultimate Safari - Box 44 mm x 16mm high - Gear "reversing wheel. Gen - 7750 Automatic Chronograph Movement alternations 28800 (seconds to 12) - Sapphire crystal - Correa Jacob Hornback Alligator Strap Box provided by my friend Qaz (thanks) Biographical notes Two young watchmakers decided to pool their expertise to create one of the largest watch brands of all time, Audemars Piguet. Jules-Louis Audemars and Edward-Auguste Piguet in 1875 decided to jointly produce complicated watches. Began production in Le Brassus, a village in Valle de Joux in Geneva, where they are located faithful to its long tradition. From there, they created real wonders of luxury watches and today continue to demand that the spirit of its founders Audemars and Edward Piguet Jules instilled. When the Royal Oak was launched in 1972, immediately caught the attention of two very good reasons. Its first truly original style, the work of Gérald Genta, the incomparable designer imagined octagonal bezel instead of eight visible screws, and its integrated bracelet. Second, because the Royal Oak was the first high-end sports watch. The mark gave his Royal Oak an automatic movement with calendar function. He took his innovative form of a porthole on HMS Royal Oak, the ship would also give his name. Since its launch, the Safari has caused very popular among lovers of watches is one of those watches that everybody likes us no real apparent reason, apart from the overall design. Whether cream-colored dial, black numbers, special crocodile strap is difficult to highlight a feature that makes it so attractive to most people. AP was a great success with this piece, and the market has spoken. Depending on the country, the Offshore has a waiting list of between 3 to 9 months. Undoubtedly one of the most beautiful Offshore never left the factory in LeBrassus Offshore collection, Safari always caught my attention, mainly because of the color and very nice lines. Is this cool brown crocodile strap (Hornback) with the texture of the bone, making it a very euh ... Safari. Like all other Royal Oak, Safari also has the 8 screws (in the original white gold) on the bezel of the watch. When the clock is stopped at certain angles, light plays nicely with the glossy bezel and polished screws. I find myself doing this quite regularly. The watch is much larger than the original model of Royal Oak, and not only that, but also a bit different in shape. This model and models of sea are known for their rubber parts, like the thick rubber gasket between the bezel and the watch case and protective rubber chronograph push buttons and crown. The biggest difference I find with it is that Gen. Gen. crown and pushers are not aligned. For not being a dedicated chronograph movement, but a regular movement with a chronograph module further (this method is called in tow). The grassroots movement is a movement manufactured, which has been used by Audemars Piguet in 2005. The regular automatic Royal Oak Date (ref. 15 300) has the same base movement (caliber 3120), among others. The movement used in Safari (and other offshore chronographs) is known as caliber 3126/3840 with 59 jewels and a power reserve of 55 hours. The dial-style models in the collection Royal Oak Offshore is decorated with the motif "Mega Tapisserie." The alligator strap is wearing an elegant Hornback, and the crown and buttons are molded in black rubber. The screws go back through the clock and the screw (the gene white gold) on the bezel is actually a hex (in the Republic also has an intermediate cylindrical nut). The text on the back of the AP ROO Safari tells you all you need, except for water resistance. Each Audemars Piguet has a number of mechanism (engraved on the plate, in general, and the wheel) and a number of box is always visible (recorded outside the bottom of the box). In my case the number of replicates would be: No. 8520: The production number is a combination of a letter and a few If someone can explain the logic behind these numbers, would be very grateful. With approximately 800 employees in Switzerland and 200 in foreign countries, Audemars Piguet is capable of producing between 25,000 and 30,000 watches a year. Therefore, there must be something to do with the combination of these two identifiers in the back of the clock. The dimensions of 44mm x 14.75mm, it may not look good on the wrists of the world, but certainly are comfortable on the wrist.

Creature from the deep, quintessential diver's watch, a universe which remains the basic diving instrument, which long ago conquered terra firma, as a watch elegant, timeless and action. Rolex Submariner has expanded its horizons far beyond his birth in 1953, while not denying nothing of its aquatic origins. The Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner Date 116610LN diver was officially launched in early 2010 as a replacement for the outdated model 16610. Compared to its predecessor, the 116 610 has mounted a ceramic bezel scratch resistant, and a bracelet Glidelock, While the size of the box is just 40 mm, it is observed that it has been given a more aggressive look, which is especially true for the shoulders to protect the crown, which are much more bold compared to the previous model . La replica Modelo.: Rolex Submariner 116610 LN Ultimate, de Noob Facotry. size.: 40 x 13 Cristal.: sapphire bezel.: Cerámic movement: Clon Eta 2836 This replica is one of the Ultimate models of this model, of course, I have to make some small mod to leave nearly 1.1 magnifying glass.: Dar Ar Hour hand.: Change, the body of the gene is somewhat thinner. pearl.: This well-centered, but of course, it is almost impossible that resembles the gene. crown.: This pretty well but could change the box With a strong and recognizable thanks to its case, bezel and dial. His measures 40 mm in diameter and 12.5 mm thick, with its fine design, make it a balanced and versatile clock, suitable for both casual use or dress watch.. Over the previous model, the 40 mm still unchanged, although it presents a clear increase in size in places. The handles are 1 mm each, winning a total of 2 mm and crown protectors are also larger These alterations cause more visually striking, with a sportier look, especially thanks to those extra millimeters on the handles. The smooth transition between the case and the previous Submariner bracelet is now altered, becoming more angular. The top features a satin finish, like the back, with the typical blind bottom without any inscription. The lid ring has an external threaded finish polishing, like the sides. the dial The maxidial, which in this model are larger indices and needles. No longer a nod to the past as past, painted indexes maxi version had its first success with the model 5512 and 5513. Superimposed on the black background, as indices applied [censored] points, are located at each hour except at twelve hours (inverted triangle), three hours (date window) and six to nine hours (index type cane). They are filled lumen that radiates a blue hue when the light intensity decreases. The fact that color choice is important. Sunlight is formed by radiation of different wavelength constituting the visible spectrum. These radiations are absorbed differently by the seawater. The color, starting with the red disappears. With increasing depth, gradually disappearing orange, yellow and green, until only the passing blue violet. Mercedes type needles, oversized in width, are in white gold gene Cromolight applications. The seconds hand presents, to 3/5 of its length, a small filler also point in the same luminescent substance. In the outer zone of the dial, outside the circle of directions, find a scale of 60 points. On the dial inscriptions found abundant, typical Rolex. Triangle under twelve hours, the logo, the brand name and model, "Oyster Perpetual Date". Just over six hours, in four lines! different, "Submariner" tightness "1000 ft = 300 m", and the pompous "Superlative Chronometer Officialy certified". And to top it all perpendicular to the inner ring is engraved dial with no fewer than ten times! Rolex name. Between them, located at six, we also find the serial number engraved. At three we find the window with the indication of the date, in black on white. The magnifying "cyclops" increases the readability of the digits. This bubble, which protrudes 1.5 mm of perfect flatness of the sapphire crystal, is another of the signs identifying the submariner since 1970. This optimization of the reading of the accurate date presents the novelty of the gene carrying anti-glare treatment.

Just 1 month until x-mas (OK, a little more), but thinking about this gets me in a good mood. So good, that I'm going to give away some free VIP and platinum memberships. All you need to to to participate, is post in this thread and you are included in the draw. I will also be giving away memberships for best post, describing why you like it so much here at RWG. And last, but not least, I will give away a free 1 year platinum membership to the member who makes the funnies post in this thread. This is of course completely up to me to judge, but I expect at least a "milk-spraying out of my nose-laughing"-post, to be considered as a winner. So you decide; Just make a simple post, post something funny or post why you like RWG. Either way, you can win some free memberships....

Hi guys During the couple of hours the forum has been offline, RWG has been migrated over to new servers. We were experiencing some issues with the "old" servers, so instead of spending x hours on patching them, I decided to get the datacentre to set up a couple of new servers for us and instead spend my time configuring them and move everything over. In theory, everything should be up and running as normal, but if you experience any problems, please let me know and I will look into them throughout the day. There might be some "hickups" in the next 24 hours, as I need to reconfigure a lot of stuff, but hopefully I will be able to do all of this in the background.

the bezel The novelty of this model is its ceramic bezel, virtually scratchproof and immune to degradation over time. Until this new model, the bezel was aluminum, streaking quite easily .. Presents a numerical ranking every ten minutes and rectangular indices every five minutes, with a scale of minutes, using small rod-indices in the first quarter hour. These indices are engraved on the bezel, getting a very good contrast and readability. Early Graduation at the reference position, we find an inverted triangle with a small rate applied in the center, with material lumininscente The perimeter of the bezel has 60 notches, designed to facilitate grasping and subsequent rotation thereof. Another positive about 16,610 difference is found in the fall of the bezel to the case: it is now perfectly straight when previously it curved inwards. crown Visually differ because Triplock has recorded three small dots under the Rolex crown, while the Twinlock takes one, two or none. Different combinations in the diameter of these dots indicate the material which the box is made: - Three points of equal diameter = steel - Central Point = largest gold - Points = platinum larger side To unscrew the crown must rotate two full turns clockwise, when it makes a jump of 1 mm outwards. If we pull it toward its first position, we can perform rapid adjustment date. If we throw a second time, stop and proceed to the second set horario.Para close, simply squeeze the crown inward and give two laps until the end, without forcing, clockwise. bracelet A marvel of comfort and fit. Oyster remains the typical 20 mm, reducing to 16 mm to reach the end. The solid links joined by screws threaded pins are constructed like the rest of the watch. The finish of the links is glossy on top and bottom and the sides polished. The two elements are polished closing down, but they would be protected by the same lock, remain safe from any possible scratches. One of these elements presents the central part satin, inscribed with the mark, the seal, the reference to Geneva and Swiss Made. The big difference is Glidelock closure. . I think a change was required, as the former did not convey the quality seal that deserved Submariner, both in design and material used, simple stamped steel. Now is steel and of considerable thickness. The current Glidelock presents a slider, a series of parallel grooves in the inside of the box. The different positions are set simply with the following maneuvers: unlock the last link placing perpendicular to cassette, slide in either senses increasing or decreasing the diameter of the bracelet, and re-locking with a click. The operation is done without tools, just with fingers, very convenient and fast: in less than five seconds have the cuff snugly. It is ideal to change when small daily expansion in the size of the wrist make the watch more than necessary tighten or become too loose. Provides a total length of up to 20 mm, in increments of 2 mm. Conclusions The mythical model update is inevitable, and even necessary to maintain your position. Changes and modifications may be criticized, but we can not ignore that the Submariner has evolved throughout its history, sometimes more successfully and others less. The key is to improve the model keeping the spirit in which it was born, its DNA, and Rolex has succeeded. Increasing the size of the handles and crown guard gives a more robust and sporty, with a greater visual impact .. The bezel Cerachrom is a great success. The excellent abrasion resistance of ceramics, with very deep black color, make it a very to consider when assessing the Submariner. - The maxidial, with his hands and indices larger, - The closure bracelet is an improvement Glydelock brutal. Thanks for reading

Belt The strap is made by master craftsman Jacob ( www.jacobstraps.com ), which after discussion accepted the challenge to make this belt. The strap is made of Cayman (Hornback), is a very unique and because of its difficulty, sometimes, you can only make a leather strap, hence the price, often exclusive and unique pieces, it is very difficult to find two skins with this part, which is bone. The interior, like the lining, are 1 ª quality cow In alligator brown colors available are gold, brown and black. To manufacture, Jacob currently uses the belt endlinks China. Authentic leather maintenance 1 - Watch your belt of spending time in the sun and rain. 2 - be careful not to apply chemicals such as acids and lubricants that can damage the texture and color of your belt. 3 - Keep in mind that this type of skin tends to darken naturally over time gradually, so if you polish with some substance to base oil and grease, the color will darken faster. 4 - If you want to clean you can with a cloth dampened with water and give to any pasta or other neutral oil-based substances, preferably natural or mineral that will not damage the skin and buff with a dry cloth. Thank you swallow this billet ... ... ... ... ... ... ..

A man knocks on the door of a brothel. When the madame opens the door, there's a man with no arms or legs. She asks "What do you want?" He replies "Sex of course" She says "but you've got no arms or legs, you can't have sex" He says "Why not? I knocked on the door didn't I?"

How to build a flea circus? Well, you have to start from scratch...

Came up for air...

A lawyer opened the door of his BMW, when suddenly a car came along and hit the door, ripping it off completely. When the police arrived at the scene, the lawyer was complaining bitterly about the damage to his precious BMW. “Officer, look what they’ve done to my Beeeemer!!!”, he whined. “You lawyers are so materialistic, you make me sick!!!” retorted the officer, “You’re so worried about your stupid BMW, that you didn’t even notice that your left arm was ripped off!!!” “Oh my gaaad….”, replied the lawyer, finally noticing the bloody left shoulder where his arm once was, “Where’s my Rolex???!!!”

Ok well I'll start off by stating why I love this website. Back when I lived in Germany, probably 10 years ago, I went to a DDoDs school. It was a fairly small school and everyone knew one another. My one friend showed me his dads Rolex, it was a date time one, yellow gold. I asked him if it was real and he said no, and let me wear it for a while. Let's just say that I still have it and stay at that haha. Well a couple of years into me "borrowing" it, it began to wear and tear, the gold was coming off, so I ventured to read about reps, the costs they entailed, and looked at a couple of other Rolex watches. Rolex is such a cliche, I know, but it's all my ignorance knew at the time. A while back I came across a Rolex submariner. The blue face one with the blue dial. Absolutely stunning, a must have, so I intensified my research. Just as I was going to pull the trigger on a watch, the website was either gone, or re reading the reviews made me think twice. I came across this forum not too long ago, and dove into it a little, and then I signed up. I read a lot of reviews in regards to the dealers and I found trusty time, and decided to pull the trigger on one of his Asian automatic watches for $150 shipped. I waited 3 weeks since the first set of QC pics since there was an issue, and it finally arrived. I had some issues with the watch because I didn't know what to do with it and I asked for some help here. I got nothing but awesome answers from great people without being called an idiot. Everyone explained everything very good and I feel as though I learned a lot, in that thread alone. I go to a lot of other forums and I can say that without a doubt, that this forum is the most mature, most helpful forum I am a part of and I definitely plan to contribute and learn with everyone on here. This forum has helped me with my understanding on reps, as well as gens, and this forum has helped me achieve my goal of getting my hands on a fabulous watch. It also REALLY opened my eyes to other watches out there. I have a feeling I'll be addicted, like a lot of people on here.

The last photo my camera will take (it's now in pieces...)

i assure you i am workign to bring this to you guys asap. there always seems to be a hurdle to cross, one after the other. i have a 5514 prototype 2.0 on route. the first one was almost perfect, but then we spent some time trying to resolve the bezel ring inner diamater being to small by literally 1/10th of a mm, a gen insert was having trouble fitting with out sanding the outter diameter, or it would fit but too tight. i still have no idea how well its been resolved until i receive the lastest prototype next week. i just want this thing to be as spectacular as everyone hopes it is, and as much as everyone deserves. the next hurdle im trying to resolve now is a wire tansfer issue. my bank and government get real nosey around who gets money transferred to them by wire especialy when it leaves this country. their fears are with money laundering and funding terrorism. my manufacturer likes their anonymity, understandably so, so it is proving hard to get certain information required to pay them properly and satisfy the fact checking government. i have no problem telling them i am buying non OEM watch parts for resale, but my manufacturer is less than forthcoming with their information i suspect they do not want to be on their corrupt governments radar for any reason. so beyond those issues i can confirm this project is very much alive along with future models im working on in the interim. thank you to all for still believing, and heres to getting some good after market cases and parts asap.

This was the best and most reliable E-klasse there was (W124) I drove 200.000 kilometers with (similar as) this one and never had ANY problems. 1995 model year. Great car (if you just forget its very poor power/capacity). After this model they started to add all kinds of electronics which was just downhill from there. More powerful diesel engines and smooth automatic transmission have been the only real improvements. @hartdoc: BMW I like... but Audis... hmm... I know they're good cars but for some reason I always feel that they're just Olympic versions of VW. Front wheel drives... yuck. quattro would be ok though.

That explains the belly dancing lessons

Well this one just arrived yesterday, in different packages and then it was a long night at the bench modding and putting it all togther, my way. Like a 78 rail dial (the MBW serial number matches for that year just about) A bit like this one here but newer and better As you all know i like my watches to look new ish or old but well looked after, and in particualar usable all the time. I had been collecting parts for this one for a few months and as soon as I had all the major parts I had to get to work on it, in particular I wanted the He valve to look real, Now i had toyed with the idea of making a gen style one on the lathe but then I thought it is a rep it will never be asked to work as I will never be in a helium rich over pressure enviroment so what could I do just to make it look different (and to be honest i dont think i have) I drilled out the old He Valve area in the MBW case and then turned a 1.65mm plug of SS, polished and domed the top and glued it in to the case so that it was more recessed then the MBW, well my wife cant tell the difference from before and after the two hours work, ( have you ever tryed to drill on top of a dome dead in the center) What do you think? Any difference? A gen for comparison Any way the rest of the build and parts used Modded MBW old school case with:- Lugs drilled, gen spring bars Modded CGs Modded He Valve area Gen Tube and Crown (need a new crown as the threads are on the way out on this one) Clarks T39 crystal (and this is pretty damn close to the gen T39 service crystal) ETA 2846 21600 movement, just serviced, MBW silver DWO, with Hacking lever added (quick set date still fitted) Ingod Rail Dial relumed by me (not my best work i have to admit) TC hands (and wow are these close to gen and with great lume, fit and ETA perfectly) Currently on 503b endlinks with a 6248 clasp and 7021 links, but it looks fine from the out side, all polished to remove the sharpe edges, cleaned rebrushed and re cleaned for that silky feel like prom queens thigh! Now i just need to improve that pearl, pick up a 93150 josh bracelet and get a new crown and let it age on my wrist So some more pics I know it is not the right case back but oh well The photo all the purist will hate but this is a comparison with my gen 1680 with lumi dial And finaly the wrist shot I would like to than the following people who help with this build in selling, or donating parts TC, DenimHead, Highoeyazmuhudee, My wife and all of RWG for the knowledge i have learnt over the past 8 years to enable me to complete this work. Andy

Genuine Rolex GMT hand is .17mm. What are the sizes for the other 3 gen hands?