Then there is also the kind that basks in the warm fuzy glow from the ±1s and ±1000s for bashing noobs and their inability to search. Albeit eloquently put, the sand in the nether areas is palpable. Some of these threads are more annoying and reek of "lookhowfunnyiam"-ness much more then the actual noob questions. Cheers PS. Since you say it has been forum etiquette since the dawn of time, you should also realise that noob questions have been the same since that same dawn of time. Thus, with your experience, you should know to Get over It.