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I have like most guys here been reading a few threads about guys getting scammed or mis-sold watches and services etc and the question I guess most of us ask is how could this happen on such a great forum like this ? I thought that myself and I would like to think that I am savvy enough to avoid those same pitfalls that most guys seem to have in those threads... I am sure most us do think that... But it can happen..it happens in life and outside this forum in all sorts of ways.. So I thought ...Would it help if there was a sticky thread setting out guidelines or advice..I even thought maybe I should write one and post it and guys could add points or improve points I made and together we could create something that would help ..maybe But then I thought if I did that then it would need to be short and concise and readable and indeed read... So if you consider all that you end up realising that you cannot do that and be certain that your aim in writing it will be of any use.... The fact is - There is plenty of good advice and info already here on this forum and in addition elsewhere .... from advice to buying on ebay or on other forums and generally on the web...plus most importantly simple common sense.. It is like guys moaning that dealers links are wrong and 'we' can be scammed...but surely if you have read the advice and you know how this game is legally speaking then you would know from common sense that they would change regularly so its reasonable to do a check that the link is current especially if you then look at dates of threads etc.. So IMHO the idea of a guide is pretty pointless... I say that because... as most of us can see most new guys really dont read the info already available on the forum so why would they read a guide? You can see that most new guys just post a thread or question that has been asked a dozen times before and in most cases dont even post it in the correct section so clearly they havent as they claim searched... maybe they might do better to ask how to search rather than ask the question they do.. as the search tool does take some getting used to especially in terms of what you ask it to search.... But then you consider guys that say I aint new.. I aint a noob... what about me? But the truth is we are all noobs ....its just we are noobs in different areas...for example if I wanted a Rolex I would be a noob ..if i wanted to buy an IWC I would be a noob.... it goes on for all of us... you see so many guys with say a year here referring to noobs... but they are just a noob as those guys...we all are in different ways... I still considered myself a noob after a few years here... and for the most part I still am a noob... If you have only bought one watch or 3 watches you are a noob... if you have only sold one watch or 5 watches you are still a noob..... if you get my point? If you ahve been here 5 years or 2 months you can be a noob..if you have 5 posts or 6000 posts you can still be a noob... Your feedback or length of membership or post count entitles you to expect nothing and nor should you... and no one dealing with a guy based on that alone should use that to judge them either... Even now I still read stuff that was stickied for new guys... it helps and in turn I use it to move me forward..it isnt always the answer but it sends me in the right direction to get the answer...it requires me to use my own head and take it forward..it is not there as the onladvice needed..it is to guide and get you on the right wavelength to investigate more.. Even now as I write this I know most guys wont read this or read it through as its too long and wordy... most guys that will already know the score or most of it when it comes to these sorts of issues.. The truth is any of us can get scammed..its just the more experienced you are the more experienced the scammer needs to be.... We can make all the guidelines, scamlists and advice we want..but if no one reads it or takes the basic advice and uses their own initiative to use that and take it forward then scammers will continue to succeed... Then if you factor in the reasons why we get scammed... With money you get scammed because you are greedy... that is a fact..it is your greed that feeds a scam and its success... Its very similar in the rep game.. If you are a seller...and you need to sell to buy your next wish list rep..and the watch isnt budging and been there a while then you are more easily caught in a scam ...same if you are trading etc etc If you are a buyer you see a watch you really want ..you want to be first to get it and not miss it then you are more easily scammed..same as if its a great price or its a rare piece etc etc Because of that you dont necessarily follow the considered approach...to do your due diligence, check feedback, here elsewhere (other forums etc), ask suitable questions, get to know the seller/buyer, consider location (customs risks, Shipping risks etc), consider methods of payment, (PP with fees never as gift or Bankwire)... etc etc... and if any of these questions raise a concern then you should really dig back into everything again..not just that part of your concern.. For example... someone may say they want it as gift... that immediately should make you question everything...not just the payment... If that still leaves some uncertainty then contact members, post a feedback reference question here or elsewhere... And ultimately if you have any doubt dont buy it dont sell it..... because even though you may have doubt ultimately it is that 'greed' part of you that is allowing yourself to be open to being scammed and no amount of advice or guidelines is going to help you avoid that...

Best Sub under $300? Take a TC Sub. Put it on the table. Place 3 $100 bills on top of that. Done!

This is fantastic. Looks amazingly good, perfect screws, precision on the hands settings and parallel bars at 12´o clock as it should be - wonderful case, beautiful AP - and 3 days is awesome - to me takes always 3 weeks - at least, or much more.... Looks absolutely as a gen to me - lots of wrist presence, wear it well - this will be a perfect Thanksgiving, Congrats and thanks for the pics

The rules being what they are allow for bad business practices. Whats stopping anyone from saying "I have 10 days to do this and another 45 days to do this before anyone can do that?" Let's be frank; as I seller I'm not going to ignore messages or emails for 10 days if I'm serious about making the sale. If you do, you stand to loose the buyer. Equally true as a buyer. If you wait 10 days before you initiate the purchase, you'll loose out. So why handle the situation as such AFTER money and produce have exchanged hands? Yes, things happen buts its more common, from what I've learned, for a person to ignore a message after the fact than it is for "something to come up". The rules allow you to calculate your time before action is taken. You can ignore everyone to include the moderators and the other party can't use the PP protection without running the risk of being banned. Rep game or not, there's something wrong with this from a good faith and business perspective. The rules should be reviewed. Further, it should be well known what the resolution steps the moderators take to resolve the problem. If they're lax, they should be tightened. For example, if the buyer/seller can't go to PP and file a dispute, shorten the time allowed before the mods go to PP and file a dispute...something along those lines. Tighter guidelines protect everyone. The mods can use good judgement but taking away the excess wiggle-room will keep situations like this from happening all together.

Let me be the first to congratulate you!! That was super fast, I figured you would get it sometimes next week. I promise you, if I didn't have one, I would be ordering one right now. Beautiful watch, and like you said, I can't see anything wrong with it. I'm glad to see that the serial numbers are different, such a sure tell on so many reps that all have the same number Wear it in good health.

009 for the next few days.

Hope I'm not stepping on toes Jerk. Using you're spreadsheet of figures you gave me I've produced this (as seen on RWI). Movement holder for 2836/2824 movements: http://www.sculpteo.com/en/design/eta-2836-movement-holder-for-dwo-alignment-to-1/7x62Ag7s?basket=1&noclickredirect=1&uuid=GKmjv4GFOlTqrVk1l6HAMh#tab=material And on top of that the alignment frame with hopefully enough room to allow you to adjust the DWO with everything in place. http://www.sculpteo.com/en/design/rolex-dwo-alignment-frame/okaG5NWA?basket=1&noclickredirect=1&uuid=ZvdFhPx8fBStimJyzSiclb#tab=material Full render of the tools.

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It just seemed to me that things weren't working out and the seller was ignoring all comms , I waited a week from the seller ignoring me and the RWI ticket to opening the paypal case , and this was done only to get them to reply. I appreciate form TB's view "rules are rules" but if that's the case why not leave it to the mod dealing with the ticket , It was a single use of PP dispute ( out of many sales ) and it was the seller who escalated it to a claim , I believe i noted in the ticket i was going to do this to get a reply from them ( no longer have access to be sure ) It left me feeling as though I was being made out to be the bad guy. The mod who was helping with the ticket was being great and dealing with things well however the other guy undercut him and went to TB which isn't how the rules say things work. I dont really want to turn this thread into a plea or debate so apologies if that is what it seems

I think that is a great adage mate and very true when buying anything....I avoided using it in my thread as it is a bit harder if you are new or inexperienced..and although it is good advice its not something that you can do so easily in this game... It is almost like there is no answer or easy method..... it is more like there are a series of indicators (or maybe checkboxes if you like) and it is important to learn to recognise those indicators..indicators can be good they can be bad... and can never be considered on thier own but as a larger consideration... its like a trail you follow it and if anything doesnt seem right then you stop you go back and check your tracks... then you decide whether to move on again or end the trail there... the problem is sometimes we see that something aint right but we keep moving forward because we are being pushed by that 'greed' or excitement maybe.. but you know what I mean I hope.. my main point was that with reps we seem to forget that becaue of that 'greed' factor or excitement if you like... I know when buying gens...you get the time to do that and discuss watches and the watch etc etc and almost build up a rapport with the guy... to the point you usually stay in contact after the deal is done etc

BP with clone movement… welcome to the forums now go run along and use the search bar. TONS to be read.

Welcome to the forum! Unfortunately you have just asked just about the most reviled question you could have. "Who's got the best Sub" The best bet for you is to do a lot of reading before you order because the best sub for you will be the one you pick yourself. The ones you have referenced are good choices, all the TD's carry them. Pick your TD then the watch!(look at their reviews) Don't worry about what the movement looks like as all subs are closed case back. Asian ETA clone is your best bet in the under 300 range as no one knows if you will get a fully Swiss movement if you pay for one. READ,READ,READ! Good Luck!

You know, you could add an 8mm Brevet crown and make this an 8285 ....... That's a spectacular hunk of steel there, my friend. I love those subdials.

That is updated mate the number is one of the correct ones from the release range so don't panic mate. I have some pics I will dig out of the gen mate and let you have them. I will have to find them on my external hd first.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Even though it still looks purple it's not. The camera can't seem to catch blue very well on the 5s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

IP address banning isn't really a solution. Many ISP's have dynamic IP's, so a user will get a new one after some time. If you ban the MAC address you can block the users device, unless he changes his network card or switches to another device.

Gen Aqua Date

I see no reason to change Love this watch,

The lions share of the comments here is what makes this a great friendly community. I dislike the attacks on newbs who ask stupid questions in other forums. Even though I cringe when I read newb posts I just try to help out or move on. What I also dislike is takers. Newbs who just come to get lots of info and never contribute anything (like useful dialogue, meaningful questions, pics wherever of value to others) to the community. I still don't beat on them, I just ignore them. I will engage bullies though. Anyway, post count... Can't see it in Tapatalk. Post content reveals post count to some extent. I only check if I'm doing a transaction and then will read thru posts of low post-count peeps to get an idea of their character to determine if I'll do business with them. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is my favorite rep forum.

I would reject.....

Does anyone know how the Blue color compares to the Gen.? I'm getting one for sure, but I have to decide which color .... black or blue, black or blue, black or blue .... hmm?

Still this one for me today!