JohnG

Porsche Design has some what I call lust-worthy watches that I beleive have quartz movements. What others are out there that are similarly sought after?

(My 1970's vintage Movado Museum watch was too at the time I bought it.)

Hey man, sorry you are getting your thread crapped all over, there are some NICE quartz watches out there (just look at that Victorinox!). That stuff about souls is nonsense, whether it is mechanical or quartz, it is still an inanimate object. If YOU like it, that is all that matters.

Here is one that I got recently, homage Oris (I don't generally like quartz reps of mechanical watches, but only because they are not accurate to the gen in a very noticeable way). With homages, it doesn't matter. The Zitc Oris homage uses the same case and bracelet as the A7750 Oris Chrono Diver rep, but with Zitc branded dial, mineral crystal and quartz chrono movement. Difference in price? About $200 - this one cost $85 plus shipping.

I am a member of a sartorial forum (men's fashion) and the subject of watches came up. I reminded a member that it was generally not a good idea to manually wind an automatic watch and here is a reply:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packard

Keep in mind that the "automatics" (self-winding) models are considered much more desirable and will retain their value much better--but you have to wear them in order to keep them wound. Hand winding is not recommended for automatics.

-- Not true. All modern automatic movements have a mainspring "clutch" which slips when the mainspring is fully wound.

AD

Was I right or wrong with this advice?

What KBH said - and really, what you said too - generally not a good idea - not necessary and depending on movement can be VERY bad idea - A7750, hand winding is a big no-no.

Got my GF an Hermes H-hour rep after trying on at AD, as a rep it is pretty flawless except for the strap (which I changed) - about $100 from most dealers. Clean elegant lines, great watch. Here is the gen:

A wise, talented, and well-known watchmaker once told me "well packed watches don't just break in transit".

I had a watch stop functioning just sitting on the shelf. I put it up, it was running, a few days later, I put it on, it would no longer function, had to have it repaired. Watches can just break, they don't have to be slammed on concrete or suffer other severe trauma for it to happen.

Not me either. The truth always lies somewhere in between, I am glad the buyer stood up and gave his half of the story. Hopefully, they both take a deep breath and resolve this matter peacefully.

+1

As to the PP dispute - is this guy a noob? Sometimes noobs are quick to jump the gun, don't realize there is a taboo against PP chargebacks in this hobby. And perhaps we should refrain from speculating whether this is buyer's remorse, since as far as I know none of us was there when the watch arrived. The guy may have been quick to open a dispute but that doesn't make him a liar.

As to risk assignment, I am one (of the few) who believes the risk should be on seller. I send money in exchange for FUNCTIONING watches, not a watch that MIGHT be functioning when it arrives. If the onus is on the seller, there is MUCH more incentive to package properly, check functions in advance, etc....

I know Medenblik by reputation and if he says the watch was working it was working. And if he says it was well packaged it was well packaged. But that said, if it were me, I would have just refunded money and taken watch back. Putting the risk on the buyer makes no sense since he is in NO position to check the watch and protect it from possible damage.

We are all buyers and sellers so shifting the risk to the seller comes out in the wash anyway, and puts it on the only person able to have any influence on the condition in which the watch arrives.

-Ditto-

but, I believe it was Ziggmiester who said that " a fully serviced A7750 with sec@9 is as good as a Swiss ETA"........please don't qoute me on this, it might not be The Zigmeister!

It WAS The Zigmeister.

He said that putting a Swiss 7750 in a rep is a waste of money. The Asian is EXCELLENT.

Oddly enough, try Amazon.com. Usually, they're around $170-$200, but occasionally, they'll dip towards the $150 mark. Last year, they were $145 all over Amazon.

They close on the Bay for $130 or even less, every day of the week. Just a couple of days ago I saw THREE close for under $130 in the same day.

For all around watch, Ingy without doubt. You can wear it as dress or casual - BB would look ridiculous with a suit (some wil argue this point but they are wrong, only a dork wears a BB with a suit to a wedding or a business meeting, funeral, elegant dinner party, etc...).

Nothing against BB but the Ingy ALWAYS looks good, the BB only with certain clothes, situations...

Don't forget RWS, though that one was stillborn.

Great news!

Where can you get a monster for $145,? never seen them that low

On the Bay, every day of the week.

Yeah, I meant better made. I am making this up, but my theory - gens are made in higher production and very modern facilities, largely automated, and in addition don't have to contend with costs associated with illegal products (seizures of goods by police or customs, lower volume sales, and a host of other issues that make selling reps more costly than selling gens).

I have just purchased a Seiko SNKf07K for $149 shipped (hasn't arrived yet). This watch has a japanese (Seiko) automatic movement. I have not the slightest doubt that is is superior in quality, reliability, lume, fit/finish, and serviceability than ANY equivalently priced replica.

Here is a pic of the watch - I have owned a lot of nice reps in this price point but haven't found them to be at the level of any Seiko I have ever owned....

Hello everyone,

has someone compared quality replica (for example Omega UPO) to ordinary brand watches, like Seiko, Citizen, Orient or others in similar price range? How would they perform? Qualitywise, is it better to buy Orient for 200GBP, or is it better to buy Omega UPO for 200GBP?

(sorry if this was already discussed here, but I cannot think of the right keywords to do the search...)

Gens for same price will always be superior.

Cheapo PVD Radiomir homage w/ Asian 6497....

Welcome, always read his sales section at RG, lots of cool stuff!

I also have a clone ETA - in a SSD. My watchsmith didn't believe it was Chinese made (it IS a clone, that's a fact). But he thought it was too well finished to be a Chinese product....

bump for a classic

wow that thread went nowhere fast.

Okay, besides the pic discussion what do you think about www.prowatch-polo.com

don't know them, looks interesting..... noobs should stay away until more experienced members have tested them out

JohnG: did you by any chance take a wrist shot of the PVD Pam Hoamge?

Post up your progress pics as I'd definitely appreciate them for when/if I try it!

I will but won't be soon. Poke around, there are tutorials on how to do it - that is what I am going to follow... The first, the PVD Radiomir, only has the hands, should be pretty straight forward...

In the late 1970s a friend of mine (Mike) bought himself a Rolex from a reputable dealer. (It was genuine).

Another friend of mine (Walter) was selling "forgeries" of Rolexes. These were meant to fool both the buyer and all comers. These were not replicas as we know them now.

Shortly after Mike bought his own genuine Rolex he bought a Rolex forgery from Walter for his wife. It looked perfect to my untrained eyes--right down to the packaging.

I said, "Mike, this is a mistake. You cannot buy yourself a real Rolex and your wife a fake one."

He said, "No problem. I'll tell her it is a fake when I give it to her."

"No you won't. She'll say, 'Mike! A Rolex! Thank you, thank you, thank you'". And you will keep your mouth shut.

And that is exactly what happened. But a couple of years later when they were going through their divorce she tried to sell it to the local Rolex dealer who said, "What do you want us to do with this thing?"

Her lawyer used this as "another example of his duplicity" and it weighed against him in the settlement.

(While typing this the mail man arrived with my Breguet replica. It looks nice.)

Moral of the story: Don't tell lies about your reps. It will come back to bite you in the @ss.

stick to the forum-recommended dealers.

Over time you will hear about other dealers from other members. Some are great, but you really should stick to the ones on here at first. As said above, if you see something you like on another site, send a pic of it to one of the dealers here, they can get it for you....

I think the red dot is the glow of the camera, the iptcdata of this pic says it has an 10sec of exposure so it's probably made with a selftimer explaining the red lightdot, to me this is not a faked shot, maybe pushed the saturation a bit

nope, it is the second hand, this is a u-boat.