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The strange thing is that I enquired with Angus about this watch. I asked him about 2 weeks ago whether there was a big pilot in the works.

Angus replied that yes there was one just about to be released, but it wasn't being made using a genuine as an example...

This has just been released and Jandrew are stating that a genuine has been used....make of that what you will.

An asian 21k movement with fixed power reserve it certainly won't be getting my money, especially when a Chopard GT XL with the same movement can be bought for half the price!

For that price I wouldn't think twice. If it's a genuine and a trusty dealer go for it

A dremel and some patience is all that is required (sapphire only)

I'm really looknig forward to this film!

Why oh why can't we get a better version of the 42PO? I love this watch, but I've been holding off for over a year praying they'll improve the 4th gen.

The 4th gen is a great watch, its really just the pearl that lets it down and lack of AR, which are easily fixable things. I owned one and on the wrist you really can't tell it from the genuine.

The best at the moment is the Silix version, where the main flaw is the He valve placement. There is talk of a new rep being released so hopefully it might be as good as what we have become to expect from reps these days

Skyland again;

Are you sure about that? I thought it was from outside of the bezel @ 9 to outside of the bezel @ 3 which works out to 44mm on the SOSF I just measured.

It's the same thing, but if you measure it from 10-2 it makes it clear that the crown is not included.

Try searching a long the lines 'Lello' 'Datewheel' 'Breitling' There was a pic posted a while ago.

So I received my first Breitling Skyland Avenger.. and the watch is beautiful.. But.... It already seems to be having problems! It needs to be shaken like every 10 mins or the second hands stop working.. Im thinking that if it already has problems now, prolly more to come :S Very sad .. Ive already contacted my seller, so lets see what they can do! Bought the watch off eurotimez.com .. mayb I can get my money back and buy from Josh .. Any other ideas on what I can do mayb to save tthis watch thanks!

Try giving the crown 10 turns (slowly) and see how it runs after that for a few days. Eurotimez is a great dealer so he will help all he can

always...I mean ALWAYS buy from Josh.....

Sorry for yours SA by the way...Mine is coming tomorrow....Just hope I dont get the same problem......heard that some more had problems with SA and its movement???

Can't think of anything worse, ordering from a dropshipper or from someone who visually inspects the watch....it's a no brainer for me...Eurotimez everytime!

from 10 to 2, outside edge of the bezel

It depends what you want. The Swiss Euromariner is the best you could go for, with a new insert and CG's slightly shaved you'll have the best modded sub out there for the money. Alternatively you could go for the Asian movement version and save a lot of money.

If you are after a daily wearer and aren't worried about it being the best out there, the Noob is the best out of the box, unmodded sub in a lot of peoiple opinion, and it is a very good price!

For each link that needs to be removed you need to remove two screws. Once the two screws have been removed, the part of the link on the opposite side of the bracelet can be pulled from the bracelet.

it could be the best one...don't know, I am not an expert...

but what's the purpose to compare a noob with another rep costing 3x the price of the noob?

Because the Noob is considered the best out of the box rep Submariner. It has many good parts. This comparison goes to show how good this Euromariner actually is. Put the prices aside, and look at the accuracy first. It is more pricey yes, but it combines all of the best features of many Subs.

As above. They are definitely not that noticeable, it is only because the pictures enlarge the watch that they becme so obvious. I have one out of line on mine, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It is a minor thing to put up with when th rest of the rep is perfect.

I would love to this watch!

If you notice in the postage bit it is for pick up only???? so if it was a scam you would just not pay when you go to pick up? or you you turn up and get robbed?

I was thinking the same...could pay on collection? It would make for some itneresting feedback...

' A++ seller, a great watch at a great price, but I was mugged'

IWC 3714 Portuguese from Fracture, this is a gen on my wishlist, I love the Portuguese, Im certainly torn between the 3714 and the 5001 though!

This looks very similar to a Breitling Montbrillant, quite nice I would have to revmoe that red safety catch covering the pusher though!

Itseme, I absolutely love your display, everytime I see it I just sit here and admire the work you have put in!

Definitely the black, I saw a gen a few months ago in an AD, it looks incredible in black!

yess im looking for thegrey one too ...how bout the movement ??is it asian or swiss option ??

it looks like thy have it below 200 bucks..is that another version ?

The movement is asian. There is only one option for this watch, and they are all below 200USD.

I'm quite sure how it work's but there is a gearing system that allows the bezel to move but still have water proof capabilities. So the outter bezel drives the inner bezel via a gearing system, rather than the two being part of the same structure. The crystal can therefore be fixed in a set position.

Puretime (Angus)

The one that By-tor reviewed isn't made anymore unfortunately. Try Silix's standard SMP, they are probably the best out there at the moment/