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Thank you very much!! Ddebo, very useful information for me, I didn't know landa before, I'll check this website and contact with landa, BTW, what is the spec or name of your blue landa strap?

DDebo, Can you kindly let me know who is randa and how to contact randa? Thank you!!

Let me guess...I think the grey one is Strap Culture and the blue one is Gorilla Strap, Am I right?

I'm in one, too, please!!

Hi, offshore, PM sent!!

Thank you very much, PeteM, I'll check Watchbitz, Also want to know what size of nylon die is use on the pam111?

I want to change my pam 111h crystal by myself,there are several type and size on ebay, I don't know which size nylon die to fit the pam 111, Please recommend suitable crystal press or seller on ebay, Thank you very much!!!

Anyone knows Is that possiable to replace the old CG on the newest ulitmate 212's case?

Dear Lanikai, Thank your kindly reply! Where you get this Top Gun V3? I search some dealer here but never see any V3... And also your strap is very beautiful!

Hi,mates, How about the IWC Top Gun 3789 now? I research some threads about this watch, and compare many pictures of dealers here, I find out there are 4 versions of this watch now, asia V1, asia V2, swiss V1, swiss V2, I'm not sure about these difference, anyone can tell me these outward detail difference? I notice V1's crown shape is a little bit off, and sub dial don't have concentric circle, the TOP GUN side engravement are different,too.The swiss version claim Brand New Needles are Made for This watch, and Updated Swiss Standard AR... which one is the most accurate now? or is there any thread about gen vs. rep of this watch? If no consider the price, is the swiss movement version's outward detail better than asia movement's version? Thank you very much!

Thank you, PeteM, lanikai, qwest905 and zed, you're very kindly to answer my questions! Does Vac sell 212 ? or he just do modifications? Is that possiable to replace the old CG on the newest ulitmate 212's case? or should just I wait another new version come out? Thank you very much!

Thank you for replies! my friends, Yes, I did ask this on the other forum, but no one answer me so I asked it here again, I saw gen 212 in AD, I think the glass is no blue tint AR on gen, How is the AR color on the newest ulitmate 212 rep? I think the older version CG is better,but the second marks is reversed, Is that possiable to replace the old CG on the newest ulitmate 212's case?

Hi, I want to buy a PAM212 , I read a lot of threads about this PAM212 here, some flaws like incorrect second marks, cycle lines sub dial, incorrect CG shape,bad print on rotor, black long second hand.... Did the factory improve these flaws to make newset version now? And where can I get the most accurate PAM 212 now? Thank you very much!!

Thank you!! very useful informating! I'll check trust dealer here and get one! Another question is how many verison has been released for each one? I mean like the DW or Dial... , any detail change?