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I agree about that...there are 3 dial versions...blue, orange and red...blue is my fav...

when I spoke to Angus a couple of months ago he said he would ask the factories to do it but apparently they decided not to go for it since the gen was high priced...but now, If they bought gen AP ROO's for replicating...then they could invest as well in the Scuba LE...

Gents...I looked at getting a Scuba months ago and they've been out for awhile. They may not be on the same level as some of the more recent super-reps but they do exist

http://www.pc-80108.com/ap01031-scuba-limi...813-p-4321.html

as stated there are many differences between the two...but there's not a "super" 005 on the market...nor is there a basis to create one either. The DSN one is probably the "best" out of the box though as his logo is "better" despite being too close to the Panerai wording

Here's another perspective...since it's a closed back model you could do what I did with mine.

Spent $100 on a 21J movement 005 from Joshua

Had The Zigmeister lume it and install a Palp crown on it

Did a couple little mods to the CG myself

**note...the 21J movement doesn't have the recessed pin issue that needs fixed on the others...however the pin has a slightly rounded top not a flat top.

and for $300ish I've got a very nice 005 rep that actually gets the most wrist time of any of my reps. Still got as many flaws as any other but has great lume and great crown which for me were the most important issues. I could still nitpick my own watch some and make improvements but I'm too busy wearing the darn thing.

Please forgive me for being lazy...but I've never in my rep collecting owned a rolex rep but this has me VERY interrested. Do you mind pointing me towards info on this rep?

Thanks

This just came today, so switched to the GMT-II Ceramic:

Havn't worn te 212 in several months...still not sure I've ever found a strap that I like really really well on this puppy. Had a Don carbon on it for a couple of months after christmas and then it just went away in the watch box.

Got up this morning and put this strap back on it which I think is still my favorite for this watch.

The whole quartz thing aside, the design of this watch just doesn't really do anything for me like the Flat-6 watch does. At least the Flat 6 has a unique face design that makes it much more attractive to the eye in my opinion.

I've got an old Tag Heuer 3000 professional that I don't have any pictures of.

Here are the other two:

It's on my short list...one would think and hope it's Guards red.

Thanks for all of the great feedback.

212 on Don Carbon.

Could you Rolex experts pick these two rep apart a bit to tell me if if either one is good or not. From the limited info out there it appears as though there really aren't any outstanding DateJust reps for the ladies but I'd like to find the nicest one possible for my wife.

This are the ones that I've been looking at from Joshua:

http://www.pc-80108.com/rdjls00101-jubilee...712-p-4127.html

and

http://www.pc-80108.com/rdjls01007-oyster-...712-p-3319.html

Thank you for your time and expert input.

Hi,

I have reviewed my lite version : maybe you would like to compare my pictures with the ceramic pictures.

It looks definitely like ceramic, but has smooth edges.

As I'm also looking t make a HBB purchase and can't decide between PVD and Ceramic I've been looking for good comparisons as well, however what I found interesting is that UB7's PVD bezel came with the knurled sides like the ceramic has. Not sure if this is a later update making the newer PVD versions look even closer to ceramic or if different suppliers are providing different bezels?

Also in looking through posts on timezone many of the factory ceramic bezels look brushed at certain angles and clearly polished in other pictures further adding to the confusion.

I actually really like it on the Ice bang...almost feel like that's a version of the watch that Hublot should have made over the all black one.

Do you mind doing a mini review of the polished ceramic vs. PVD coated bezels and maybe some picture comparisons?

Since you're a Hammy fan, why don't you check out the Khaki Navy GMT, or Air Race GMT. I picked one up for less than $300 on eBay, and it represent the best value available with an ETA 2893.

Check out the custom job I'm doing on it here:

Introducing the Next, Best Thing in coatings - ADLC

Hummm...Hamilton wasn't even on my Radar...those are a couple of good suggestions. Before I got into this hobby my Hamilton was the first watch I'd grab for every morning. I always felt it was the best watch I could get on my budget back then and still think they're the best buy for the money in the gen realm.

Still looking for other suggestions....the Chopard was a great selection to get me into another brand of watch.

All,

In looking at my small, but growing collection I'm trying to put together a list of watches that i want to diversify my collection some in '08. I don't currently have a GMT watch and I"m open to suggestions on good GMT watches in the market.

Also keep in mind that I'm trying to diversity brands somewhat...and I realize that Rolex should probably be a candidate becuase I don't currently own any Rolex's but I'm just not too hot on them either.

Current watches:

Pam 005

Pam 212

Breitling Navitimer

Omega speedmaster (gen)

Hamilton white face chrono. (gen...obviously)

Tag Heuer 3000 professional (gen)

Current Wish List:

HBB Ceramic Bezel

Porsche Flat-6 Chrono (Red)

??? - GMT of some sort

??? - Dress watch of some sort...thinking IWC FA Jones

Gents,

I appreciate all of the comments and feedback. Much good discussion in this thread.

All of this AR interest lately...and it's never even been something that was on my Radar until I started to read all of these threads. However now that I've been to an AD and seen some in person I can clearly see how it adds benefit to the watch to where you can really see details as opposed to reflections.

However if I'm correct most of the Panerai models have single AR only...so is it more of a tell to have Double AR or no AR at all?

The "synthetic" saphire that came on my 005 has a light coating of something that resembles AR...but sure doesn't do it's job and my 212 has none. I'm thinking of having both watches done but I"m wondering if it'll make them stand out in a bad way from having too good of an AR coating.

Z

UB7: Obviously the ceramic vs. PVD bezel is a dead give away on some of these watches.

However, how do the cases compare. The reps have PVD cases which are also ceramic on the gen correct? But the cases don't look to be nearly as obvious of a "tell" to me as the bezel would be....I'm really liking the ice version with it's stainless bezel.

maybe none. My experience in traffic court (and I've been there pleanty) is dress smart and humble. Don't look slopy but don't be overly flashy either

Yes the black magic and ice bang are available a couple of dealers have them..Angus, josh, andrew..I ordered the ice bang light last week (from andrew) it should be here any day i'll post pics as soon as it arrives...heres a link to andrew's hublot section (it's not on his site)

http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/tru...atchguy/Hublot/

pw:comein

The ice lite model is very tempting. Do you know if he's using the newer movements in his lite models or still the old low beat 7750 in the Lites.

Barbosa...the strap is outstanding. I've got two of his straps now and I'm already getting ready for another.

Looks great, especially the Breitling! :smile:

I have not yet joined the AR crowd. Mostly just because I don't feel secure removing and reinstall the crystal.

+1...but it's very tempting.

First there was a post about owning a Porsche watch without the Porsche.. well, as a former Porsche owner and enthusiast .. i think I still qualify.. and Pops had Porsches for most of his life...

Ha...I think you qualify. As a matter of fact...I often wonder if it's more tacky to wear branded gear just to represent something else you also own?...we've all seen that guy that owns the Ferrari jump out wearing all of the bright red gear including his red puma Ferrari driving shoes...and the manditory leather corvette jacket that I think all Corvette owners have.

That said I wear porsche design titanium sun glasses...and will own this watch in red...to match a certain something in the garage.

Nice watch, and thank you for the review.

I kept telling myself that the HBB was going to be my next rep purchase...but this particular model may have just jump'd ahead of the HBB in my book.

I may be one of the few to opt for the red version

Just got this back from The Zigmeister. It will likely be on my wrist the remainder of the week although I might switch it up from the new black Savage strap to my brown savage strap for the weekend.

look at that buckle...such a presence all by itself.