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If you go for it, it'll be a fantasy model. There was never a gold pn daytona dial in an ss case but I have seen a custom made to order 6265 with a black (gold subdial) dial. They used gold hands for that one. I tried to replicate the look myself, I came close. If you love it who cares if it was a real model!

Pic 1: gen custom made to order

Pic 2: my version

Haha, no link just a tiny little jumping spider that hangs out on my window ledge.

Thanks for the compliments, anyone can do this because I use an iphone and olloclip macro attachment. Then I find some natural light like in the window and voila!

Lv today.. Spider came along while I was taking my macros

The COMEX lettering on the gen is painted gloss black. It is not the background dial color showing through.

Always though that's how they made the earlier ones, although I don't have nearly as much exp with them as I do with the gilts

He's right it's in relief, the black part is the dial showing through

The first pic is not gen but made the same way, the underline, certified text and swiss is painted on top of the lacquer with paint. The gilt is below the lacquer.

Second pic shows a gen dial where the lacquer has been damaged, you can see the diff layers well.

Third shows how the gilt sits below the galvanized black layer and how the printed white paint sits on top of the lacquer.

"Oh, so would the "white" or "silver" gilt have just been paint? The thing I'm thinking of is like my gen 5513 dial, which has a silver underline and a silver underneath a white SWISS at the 6 o'clock position...."

Yes, white and silver gilt is just white or silver paint it is not true "gilt". The base plate has to be showing through for it to be gilt. Gen 5513 with silver underline (paint) and a silver swiss (paint again) is really cool but the silver and white "gilt" you refer to is just paint

It's hard to see but under extreme magnification, the gilt (base plate) is visually below the black galvanized areas (in relief)

The text is printed chemically I think, like negative printing. Basically the parts that the galvanic process leaves exposed are the gilt parts

Yup!

6538

What an amazing shot, It certainly does look the part. Magnifique!

The base plate is treated chemically and then enters a galvanizing bath. Once that is done, the only thing you can see is the matt black galvanized parts and the gilt parts which are just the base metal showing through. (No such thing as white or silver gilt) At that point the dial gets lacquered, once dry the depth rating is painted on top of the lacquer. Then a protective white enamel based paint is applied to the lume areas (this was done on the gens to protect the dial from the damaging effects of the lume. All that's left to do is lume it at and voila.

Pic 1: after galv

Pic 2: has been lacquered and had the depth rating painted on

Pic 3: enamel base lume applied

Pic 4: completed, lume applied and mounted in watch

That's a great way of making a budget gilt dial Joey

No he won't, his work is based on gen owners needs not ours. Nobody comes close except maybe minh

Too much! They used to be around 1400$ but with the recent economy the 1100£ he requires ends up being very close to 2k. He provides the plate, that's part of the reason why it costs so much

Hmmm... Well, depending on the text of the HR one, I'd maybe go with that. The problem that I see with most of the gilt dials is that the text doesn't look pad-printed, but instead looks like a gold-colored laserjet printing.

Right, because the "gilt" is just the base plate showing through, it's impossible to recreate unless done right. Printing gilt colour on a dial is great but not correct

That was made by my dial guy, same as nanuq's and my 6538 dial (galvanized, gilt, lacquered) made using a gen dial plate

I made one of those once, I sold the dial to a fellow member a while ago.

I have a long 5 insert that was printed with a worn out pad and it's one of the nicest I've seen. They are extremely rare too.

Mk1 beauty!!!!

6538

I can help with that, this is what his dial and hands look like. This was before being transferred to his watch.

Lv again

I'm in montreal Canada! Next door to you

I would love to try one can I order through you?

Thanks, do you have a link to more for sale?