pam007
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Except for 5513 cases with SCG not existing in 1967...
Bezel looks good, could pass as gen with proper polish...
Like the pip as well
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Great Looking Maxi!! Love the beat up look
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Mjmj tell me more about your 7922 big crown
Looks amazing.
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+1 on the 5508. Can't wait to see it!
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Those Bevels should be illegal.
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The amount of dedication people have on this forum is incredible
Good job taking it to the next level.
Looks great !!
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Man that 7206 fits like a glove
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Fitting choice to wear on my birthday don't you think?
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Happy BDay D!!
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There is no ROI on this. You will lose money as most Rolex purists already consider it a Franken.
Consider what constitutes value of a genuine Rolex watch. It's definitely not the materials used. The value is tied to the history of the company, life style, marketing, product placement and reliability on its ability to hold value in line or above inflation.
This watch will never be serviceable by Rolex or have any tie to any Rolex pedigree. Which just makes it a parts watch or at best a mutant hybrid only appealing to a small group of WIS
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I'm confused. Why aren't the Rolex lawyers beating a path to their door with a view to shutting them down. Basically the watch is a 'fake' Rolex.
It's "Modified" not fake.
They take a Gen 114060 and
remove the crown guards,
install a custom Gilt dial,
Install custom hands, 8mm crown,
Flatten the scallop bezel,
Drill lug holes
Install custom made dome sapphire
Modify the Ceramic Insert with a custom red triangle
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If you go to Thailand every single store sells them including pharmacies, restaurants, gas stations, grocery stores, retail outlets, massage parlors (allegedly), and oh yeah electronic stores. It's actually quite comical. They are for sale literally everywhere.
real or fakes?
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no need to rep, gens are cheap enough. around $200-300
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Congratz on the TC SUBS and the 5513 looks great.
No I wouldn't pay $500. My watchmaker has 2 New Old Stock Gen LV Inserts.
Apparently you can't get them anymore without trading your old one in.
I think he wanted $350 each. I'll pick em up tomorrow if you're interested.
Let me know
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Even in USD it was cheap
.Roberto is selling those cases, bezels, etc... at least for 5 years now (ebay member from 2004). If they are fake, why can't we get those good looking fine parts?
You can
http://www.jewelryandwatch.com/
a good fake doesn't make it any less fake
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Don't get me wrong, if I can learn, the better for me. But I bought an sold alot of bezels from the 60's to the service ones on different fora.
I bought bezels from this guy long before ST bezels even exist and sold them on VRF to different wel known people! I personally had no luck with different aftermarket bezels (Phong, Nathalie, Yuki, Clark or whatever) fitting on a genuine retaining ring.
A few years ago I even tried to make some new gen spec. bezels on the CNC, the guy said it was almost impossible to do so no luck.
This is one of my ads on the VRF, old style bezel:
I will try to find the ad with the bezel in question.
Never said anything about the bezels, you bought, however long ago.
I said the bezels he has for sale NOW are fake.
And that Kissing 4 insert you bought from Glenn, I almost had it, but I thought he was wanting USD not AUD.
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There are a small number of high end sellers that offer aftermarket parts made to gen specs. Some of these fit together with other gen parts (like cases), but, like the case in the original post, they are still not exact 1:1 copies.
Yes. Here is an Aftermarket ST bezel on my 2.2 mil 5513 with a genuine crystal retention ring and genuine FF MK3 insert. It's scary how good ST bezels are, with a good polish. The one on from Roberto is pretty poor.
Thank you so much guys!!!
Look like I should avoid buying these.
It's sad, I thought to build perfect all Gen Sub.
Thank you again for all your time and help!
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I would email jedly1@googlemail.com to see if he has any cases left.
He has some genuine 5513 and 1680 cases for sale a while back.
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I'm pretty sure they are genuine, tell me where to buy an aftermarket bezel like this? Perfect rehaut for the insert.
They fit perfect on genuine crystals and genuine retaining rings.
Did you ever tried to fit an aftermarket bezel on a genuine retaining ring, it doesn't worked for me. I tried it several times with alot of different bezels.
There were many iterations of the bezel assembly from the 60's to 70's to service. At best, it looks like an over polished service bezel, but it's not.
I would start by going here http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673 and do a search for "Jacek 5513" or "Jacek 1680" and study the bezel profiles. Look closely at the teeth and spacing
If you're still not convinced, I can post some comparison pictures later tonight.
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There was a topic on VRF or on RWG and the outcome was they are all fake.
I dealt with the guy before, bought complete bezels, inserts and 700 crowns. They where all genuine.
His name is Roberto.
the 2 bezels he currently has up for sale are not genuine
I don't know about black rubber gasket where bezel should be fitted, newer seen this one before.. Not on 5512 or 5513
Rubber gaskets were installed on all Rolex Oyster Cases starting around 5 mil serial.
Here is my 5.1 serial 1680 with a rubber gasket.
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It's fake.
He sells fake cases, bezel assemblies and case backs on ebay from time to time.
His engraving have gotten better every year, but still fake.
People still bid on them because the quality is similar to phong.
Here's a discussion about his cases
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How does that service dome compare to the Clark T19 service dome? Better clarity or profile? Is it more likely to fit with the Puretime case? I have read that the Clarks can have variations in ID and if one doesn't fit right, another may fit better. My Clark cracked right away. Is this brand more uniform in its production?
I don't have a Clark T19 Service dome, I don't see it for sale anywhere.
I don't have a Puretime case so I dont know what sort of bezel assembly it has, or the measurement to the retention ring.
I have the Clark vintage T19 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crystal-Ref-25-19-Vintage-style-T-19-Tropic-19-crystal-for-Rolex-CLARK-/231467087330?hash=item35e48375e2
I have the Clark domed T19 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crystal-Ref-25-19-Domed-style-T-19-Tropic-19-crystal-for-Rolex-CLARK-/231602050632?hash=item35ec8ed648
The aftermarket Service T19 I listed above is pretty clear, but not as good as the Rolex Service T19.
If you shine the aftermarket Service T19 crystal in bright sunlight, you can see very small inclusions that are not in the Rolex Service T19
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Times have definitely changed. My last Rolex purchase was a '66 Rolex 5512 - all original for $1200. And I bought it on RWG.
Wow I would love to see some pictures of this 5512 if you still have it.
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You need to get a digital caliper and measure the inside of your crystal retention ring
My 1680 retention Ring measures 30.21. I see on Ofrei the XS305-451 measures 30.48. This means I would not be able to get my retention ring around the XS305-451 crystal.
I ran into this exact problem when I was trying to install a Tropic 19 that Gary Clark Sent me. It measured 30.39 and I couldnt get my retention ring around it.
As you can see my Service 127 measures 30.25 and Service 19 measures 30.22. Which allows you to fit the retention ring around it snugly.
Snug Fit
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6538 2016 with extra beef.
in The Rolex Area
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Amazing Job. Well Done !!