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Thank you Ken, it is true, I have to spend lots of hours research, and i think it would be easyer is I have the gen here, it easier to compare. arthur

true, but is that the only way to see quick? Is it true that if opened the watch that it is not waterproof anymore??

You are right, I have to study more...

maybe we have to make the forum more exclusive and to become a member you have to fill in more of yourself, if you you want to become a membership. It is to easy I think... .. and make some rules how to behave and what to do if...and if you wil order a watch at the dealers. ( the mail klink sent me when I became a member on the old form, was a briljant gift for me as noob.)

Hi Who can tell me what the steps are and where you start to see if a submariner is real or fake? what are things to look at?? I have seen on the board many foto's but without the foto's it very hard thanks arthur

yeah peace, good idea

yes it is, this friend of mine buys so much every month that they give him 30 % of every watch and 20 % on the submariner.

Hi ed, sorry to hear this for you, realy [censored], was it not possible to refuse the packege? Maybe is it an idea to make rules for buying a rep at the dealers on this forum.. Every member get a copy of it and they have to keep the rules. If some one is so stupid to [censored] with those "agreement" it is his own risk to loose his watch or money. I think everybody must now how it works and what to do by problems 1.custom problems 2.paypal/ moneytransfers 3.shipping problems etc etc good luck arthur

Please advice me guys I transfered money for the reservation of the submariner, the guy gave me 8%. This afternoon a good friend called me and told me that he could get one nearby with 20% discount!!! ( this is a different of 600 euros) What should I do now?

It is realy bad.....sorry, from far you can see this is a rep....

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I certainly do!! Realy less money for goodlooking reps! cheers...

I do like the pam 088...... there is no rep of it, uhm .....is the reason maybe because it is so ugly

Hi congratulations with the new watch, please take a few good pictures, it's realy bad to see the watches like this , to much flashlight and a to darkroom.... Succes arthur

Hi , Thank you for the great ideas for taking smooth pictures! What a nice watches do you have, where did you get the 16610 en the 16610LV?? greetz arthur

I know now that if I want something realy realy , i stop buying reps for a moment a try to keep the money for a while....and then it is easier to by a gen. But I have to tell you that this is the only gen I buy for at least a few years, I will wear 1 piece on my arm most of the time, and this is the one I am dreaming of sins 15 years. I have had a rep of this one, but only with rolex , everybody is asking, oh is that a rep, is it real etc etc. With my panerais everybody thinks it is a gen. so..... I hope I can sleep the next nights till it's wednesday....

Thanks my friend, I think that is how it goes in a relationship

good point, i think it will be better....wait and see

Hi I finaly made a decission, I reserved and paid an amount for a black one and get him wednesday! The price is 3800 euro. This was the only new one in holland what was left, others were all reserved. I thought abou getting the green one, new there was a delivery time of 2-3 years!!! They had one, from 1 years old and the price was 4700 euro. Unfortunately is the extra 1000 euro now the problem for me, any way, if I want him later, I can switch it at this dealer and give me back the 3800 euro, that's a goor deal i think!! I post the pics on wednesday cheers

allright, I got your point, I realy don't see it very often indeed... I shall see if I can see one for real and see it on my wrist, maybe it looks soooo good tomorrow I hear of I can reserve one (black) there are many many people who will want one..... arthur

does it realy kick asses? tell me why....

ok, but I don't like the color.....is it easy to switch the bezels?

why? because green don't fit with with most clothings....

the green one they sell here for 4200 euro. Is that a more exclsive part??

a terrible thing happend, i could have known when I call too belgium... They gave me the price for the sub without date...... so the date one would be 3900,00 euro. So I decided to go for the date one and have no dinner for a week.... Let you guys know