teddy boy

IMHO the reaction to the post that started this thread is the assertion that if you got a good watch but just paid too much for it, then perhaps it's not really a scam. Those of us who responded believe that if you make up a watch movement to claim your product is better and create a fake ratings site, that you are actually scamming your customers. I stand by that assessment. So far as posting pictures is concerned, I'm terrible with a camera. I'm going to get my wife to take some pictures of my new white dial ingenieur, maybe I'll ask her to photograph my sub too. But as someone already posted in this thread, By-Tor's review of the noob sub pretty well establishes the point that you can get a comparable watch in terms of appearance for alot less money.

Thanks.

I realize that these pictures are not the greatest, but does this super ocean look like a gen? The thing that bothers me most is that the date seems misaligned in the window. Could someone more experienced take a look? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=180107539774

Ken, how can I found out the handbags that you can get. I'd like to get something really nice for my stepdaughter. Thanks in advance.

Stunning is a very appropriate description.

Thank you.

I tried to access Josh's site and was taken to a page that said that his account was suspended.

I took some pictures of the inge, they're good enough that you can probably tell that it's a watch. If I didn't tell you which watch and asked you to name it, you'd have a slightly better chances of correctly identifying the winning lottery numbers before the drawing. My wife is grading papers right now and maybe all weekend. When she's finished, she agreed to take some pictures for me. TIn her mind, this confirms her opinion regarding my mental stability.

Anyone who belongs to the forum whose wife doesn't think them crazy, please raise your hand. I know that my wife thinks I'm crazy about watches and bicycles. but she also considers me harmless enough.

The Colnago is absolutely gorgeous. Can you believe the paint job on that thing? My first "good" bike was a Colnago, Columbus SL. I hit a brick in the road around dusk (never saw the brick laying there) and bent the downtube. I wanted to cry. I've never been on a mountain bike. I have nothing against mountain at all, it's just that when I started riding there was only road. Have I appropriately dated myself?

My story relates to a night I was at the mall and walked by the store that sells Rolex, Breitling, Tag, and one or two other high brands. The company carries Panerai but not at this particular store. I was wearing my rep Pam 029 and dressed like a complete bum. I was looking at the glass display case windows that you can see from the mall, I wasn't even in the store. A salesperson saw the Pam on my wrist and actually came out into the mall to ask if he could help me. I'm betting that better dressed but with no Pam and he wouldn't have given me the time of day.

I have the white face on my wrist and I really like the look. My pam 029 obviously has a black face and I wanted something different.

Finding a buyer for an accutron depends alot on what you have. Is it a 214 or a 218? The 214 models are generally worth a bit more. Is it anything special (e.g. spaceview, astronaut, assymetric, rr approved etc). I would have to say that accutrons are not exactly "hot" right now.

Thanks for all the replies, you really have helped me make my decision. I'm going to wear it on at least one group ride with the submariner guys. After they've admired my Inge and oohed and aahed, I'll fess up to the watche's true origins. It will be interesting to see if any of them come clean on their watches being reps. I would be willing to bet that at least one of them is wearing a good rep but would also bet that none of them own up to that fact. In any event, I've got to wear the Inge to see their reatction. After that it will be the white glove treatment as crystal puts it. I really like the watch, I have a good watch maker who works on my reps at a reasonable fee and I know that with care it will last a long long time. As an aside, I'm amazed at all the cyclists who posted on this thread. I'm a twenty six year cyclist. I own four bikes: a 94 Schwinn Paramount (last year the real paramount was made, Reynolds 753), an Eddie Merckx titanium AX with bi-ovalized tubes, a Trek 5500, and a Guru New Steel. All but the Guru were made in America, the Guru is, of course, Canadian made. If you had told me even 15 years ago that I woud own 4 bikes I wouldn't have been surprised. If you had told me that all would be made in North America, I would have been astonished. Thanks again for the views on wearing the Inge, I have my answer now.

Thanks for the advice, I'll follow it. I have an inexpensive timex indiglo but sometimes ride with guys who wear their rolex subs. I assume that their's are real, but have no way of knowing. I was really looking forward to wearing my new inge on a ride. I would have eventually told them its origin, but only after having them ooh and aah over it. Then, of course, I would point out that you can get reps of their subs for about the same money that I paid for my inge, and maybe even a little less.

I am a cyclist and I always wear a watch when I ride. I wear a watch first of all because I'm a watch guy and wear one except when I do two things. One of those is take a shower (soap isn't good for them even if they're water proof) and the other we don't talk about. I also wear a watch when I ride to know how much more time I have to enjoy the wonderful sport of cycling. My question is, will a rep stand up to the salt and other minerals in my sweat? I wouldn't wear a gold plated watch to ride as the minerals might erode the plating. But how about a stainless model? My reps are supposed to have 316 quality stainless, I have no reason to doubt this fact as the overall quality of these reps is quite good. Is the best guess that these will stand up to a good saturation with sweat?

I just got my new inge, white face, non-chrono. It is a very substantial watch. I'm absolutely thrilled and would like to thank all those who helped me with my Inge vs. Mark XV internal debate. I think I picked the right watch (although the Mark XV is also a great watch) because I don't have anything remotely like this in my collection. It's big and heavy and appears substantial on my wrist. The quality appears excellent, the only concern is the length of the bracelet. I only had to take out one link whereas normally I would have to take two. Although the bracelet length obviously wasn't a problem for me, it could be for people with large wrists as I consider my wrists to be average or a little less than average in diameter. I'll post pictures if I'm able to use my wife's digital camera well enough that you can actually tell what I'm photographing. Needless to say, I'm a happy boy!

If my watch left Shangai People's Republic of China, does that mean I've made it through customs?

Thanks for the link, I will forward this to my friend.

What you're saying would have been my suspicion. It's not so much that there are reps of these watches but rather watches that were cobbled together from different model watches of the same gen manufacturer.

A friend of mine keeps pointing to vintage watches on ebay that he thinks are in too perfect condition and claiming that they must be reps. My response is that other than reps of some very specific models where the original sells for tens of thousands of dollars, I know of no reps for vintage watches. The watches we're talking about here are things like Omega Seamasters and Constellations from the 1950s and 1960s. My argument is that there isn't a big enough market to justify producing reps for these type watches and that the originals don't sell for enough to justify copying them. Does anyone know if there are reps of the 50's-70s omegas and such?

I first heard about this from my wife who is a marketing professor (I'm an economics professor) with regard to renting very high end hand bags. The idea was that styles change so often that women might prefer to rent rather than own, even if the rental charge was substantial. Renting a watch, on the other hand, makes less sense as styles change much more slowly. My wife and I are contemplating doing some research on the replica market and discussed this rental idea in that context.

The optimal number of watches is one less than the number that would result in a divorce. Only you know whether she's really serious, but if she's just threatening you're still under the optimal number.