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I suppose it's all about what you are comfortable with. I agree that there are some really nice genuine watches out there for less than 1K. that might sound like a lot, but honestly, guys, how many of us buy a 400-500 USD rep and then spend that amount or more modding the watch? Add a gen crystal, maybe a gen crown/tube, relume and movement service, and you are looking at a 1K rep!! Don't get me wrong, you aren't  going to get a genuine of most of your reps for 1K!! I have been wearing a really nice AP FC V3 diver for the past few weeks, cost me a little over 500 USD, but this is a 20K + watch in the genuine model. Same as my vintage Rolex models. most of the genuine models  are 5-30 K. So there is something to be said for reps that are less than say 1K representing a 20-30K watch. On the other hand, a lot can be said in defense of a less expensive genuine watch. as a poster above said, there is a great "peace of mind" that comes from buying a watch that has a warranty, was assembled in a "real" watch factory, with "real" quality control, well adjusted, clean and oiled movements. And most of all a company that will address issues and problems post sale.

 

I have a mix of genuine and rep watches, 12 reps and 14 genuine. This is really and insane number, because in actuality, you would be hard pressed to have more than say a 5-6 watch rotation. My problem is I find it very hard to get rid of watches, unless  they just don't resonate with me at all from the get go. I digress from the original topic though, here are  a few really nice genuine watches that probably a lot of folks have not heard of, small companies but really nice watches.

 

First off is MKII Owned by  Bill Yao, building some really ,really nice homages to vintage Rolex and a couple of others. MKII owns the names and all the rights to Tornac Rayville, and is planning a reintroduction of that watch in the future.

MKII Stingray

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I was never a big Fifty Fathoms fan but that it was one good looking watch right there. That sub homage is nice too. I really like their minimalist approach to the original. I would wear both of those with pride.

can i have pics and prices on them please?

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Asking 80.00 for this one.

Asking 40.00 for the second one. It has a small dent but it's hard to notice once mounted. You can see the dent in this macro. Otherwise it's the same dial as the top one.

hi 

would like to know if this dial is authentic? and there seems to be a dent on it, is it just the angle the photo is taken in or is it really dented?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221335307891?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

thank you

You building a DJ? I have a few gen silver stick dials that I'm getting rid of. I ended up finding the silver linen I was looking for.

That listing just screams fake.

I doubt it's a 160x series, looks to be a quickset dial to me.

They were all 36mm in size. The Datejust 2 is 41mm but is a different ref number. They have an extra 1 in the ref, ie 116233.

The 162xx series were quickset with a sapphire crystal I believe. The 160x, 160xx, and 162xx were all 36mm and dimensionally, the cases are all pretty close with slight differences in lug shape.

I'm a certified GMT junkie. I have the Explorer 2, GMT II-C, and the PAM 89. I have to say the PAM 89 is my favorite. That anthracite dial is just amazing.

but i think we are talking about 16xxs and 16xxxs?? or these are numbers for watches not the movements?

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3035 is the quickset movement that beats at 28000 BPH. The 15xx series of movements is a lowbeat, slowset movement. 16xx and 16xxx wer series of watches that used those movements.

so the dials are different for both movements and not compatible to eachother?

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3035/3135 quickset dials will not mount on a 1570 slowset as far as I know. The 3035 movement is very different to the 15xx series.

On a slowset you set the date by rotating the hours hand through two full 12 hour rotations. On a quickset you can change the date with the crown via it's own detent. A slowset (piepan) dial doesn't have dial feet but quicksets do. I believe cases for both 160x series and 160xx and 162xx will fit both movements. The 162xx uses a different crown/tube combo. It uses the newer 5.3/6mm crown.

Looks good to me. I have never seen a fake piepan dial. Others might have more insight though. If there ever were any slowsets faked they would have been done a long time ago and the printing on this one is way too good.

I believe Toro can source one for you.

http://www.torobravos2013.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=37_142&product_id=602

http://www.torobravos2013.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=37_142&product_id=153

Thank you sir!

Unfortunately subdial spacing is off in the handwind version,and you have to freeze the subdial at 6(install a plexi crystal as well)They end up looking pretty good but they are not a 1:1 by any means.

Here's mine

 

 

May I ask where you sourced that one from? I'm not trying to fool anyone with a gen by any means but as a tribute piece I have just always been fascinated by the "Moonwatch" and wouldn't mind having one of those.

 

Not that I know of either. But Boy, do I miss my Gen :-(

 

Sure does look great on that velcro!

Afaik all of them have inaccuracies with the chrono functions in the auto movement versions. The quartz ones I have seen have had poor dial placement.

Can Toro source dials?

That's a real work of art. Hope you hang on to that one!

Look gen to me. End link fitment and crown guards look spot on. You rarely see reps that get the CG and especially the end link fitment right.

1:1, the mythical unicorn. I say find something and enjoy it. The more you sit nitpicking the thing on your wrist seems to go against the very nature of owning a watch to enjoy it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Mens-GMT-Dual-Time-Zone-S-Steel-Date-Automatic-Mechnical-Wrist-Watch-/251067925885?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3a74d0857d

Check that link for a Bagelsport Explorer 2 knockoff, probably the cheapest way to get a GMT movement. $38.00

Poor watch. It seems to be whispering "Please kill meeeeeee"