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I have uncureable pancreatic cancer, but this thread isnt about me. When I feel my time is coming, I’ll start a thread.

On 12/29/2022 at 10:43 PM, Buddhabar said:

 

What are you saying man?...I hope I misunderstood.
If you too are not well.. I'm really sorry. I hope your health can recover to the fullest dear friend. I agree with the help to David. Wise thing to do.
Good luck. If you have a need for any reason. There are.

David.. this might seem a bit strange, but I’m in the process of kicking the bucket myself. Selling off watches, collectibles,audiophile parts etc. I know that my parents have No clue what is what.

What I want to say is..(I don’t know the degree of nerdyness you got in this hobby). If the inheritancea are unclear What is genuine, what is ”aftermarket” and help with valuation I’ll gladly help. Who knows, those funds could help a local charity or something..

I’m just expressing my thoughts, that swirl around.

P.S. Don’t wait to long with help, at least from my part as I might have started the real journey by then.

Rest in peace Bob. Calmness, wisdom and wits. David, remarkable men like your father are very rare. I wish I could write more, but this has affected me more than I thought.

Now I know why you never sent me that picture to show how you 6536 looked with the replacement insert I sent you. Hope you got to enjoy it though, even if just for a day. And that beautiful Panerai 6154 with desert/tan dial I built you 7 years ago.. that one I know you loved.

On 9/28/2022 at 4:28 PM, ziad.kassir said:

 

My brother got this submariner as a rebate without papers, i was inspecting it i felt that something is not normal, i could be wrong but i think it is fake, can you please guys let me know your thoughts??

Yeah it's fake. The end links and absence of "3D effect" on the hands are my initial tells. A member with patience might probaly find more tells.

It has to be opened up and inspect the mvmt.

Shouldn’t this be unpinned? It’s so outdated…
 

So much has happened since SH3135 (aka Yuki). It’s barely used, unless it’s in the watch.. and it’s still better to change it to a VR3135 and then upgrade that…

Shouldn’t this be unpinned? It’s so outdated…

10 hours ago, one80 said:

 

I mean all genuine Rolex - i.e. not a mix of gen and rep...

 

There are a few examples over on rolexforums where it's been done.

 

i understand what you meant, but it won’t be a straight on fit, both thickess (not width) of link is different, haft the bracelet will be hollow and also screw placement is a bit different. Even of they theoretically fit it won’t be that amazing. I know because I’ve built my own but with 580/93150 and with 93250. To make it optimal I would use a rep bracelet, e.g. 97200 close to the clasp and links in the visciniyy and the rest gen 93160. But it’s your cash going down the drain for a finished marriage that might look ok at first glance, but is a bit off when further examnining it. This can be made a tint bit better with polishing/grinding a bit on the 97200… Also even from Rolex AD the bracelet is about 1900€+ and you’ll often need a Ceramic Sub (depending on your relationship) to get one. I would never use a gen one for such a project, but like I said.. it’s your cash.

Uhm.. What do you mean keep it all gen?
A 97200 won’t fit the lugs properly as far as I know..

You’ll still have to create a marriage of SELs + fixed links and the glidelock.. and you’ll most likely have to adapt the modern parts together with the ålder stuff.

I have both a gen 93160 and 93160A clasp of you need.

Otherwise I’d say ZZF and ARF and VSF are basically the same clasp. It’s going to scream replica either way and you might be forced to adapt some links to get a uniform transition from 93160-links to the 116610/Glidelock clasp links.

2 hours ago, Sogeha said:

I see little point in such attention to visual details of a movement as signed rotor and engine turning of the same pattern on a rep of a watch with a closed back

I completely agree with you on that point. Thank you very much Rolex making repping easier. Same think with Grand Seikos divers. My two favorite watches (Daytona & 44mm Spring Drive Diver) have some of the most beautiful ”serial produced”-movements, hidden. 🥲

On 8/21/2021 at 5:53 PM, automatico said:

The main difference looking at a regular ETA 2824-2 and a tudor 2824-2 is the tudor movement is engine turned for decoration.  One etaclone brand that made a lot of engine turned 2824 clone movements is Seagull and they are Ok (for a while anyway) if they are properly cleaned and oiled.  Finding one with ETA markings should not be too hard, then all you need is the tudor signed rotor.

STP and Sellita offer engine turned 2824 clones, they are swiss made and higher quality than china etaclones but will have no ETA markings.

 

ETA 2824-2 Clones Watch Movement | Caliber Corner

 

automatico .. that isn’t 100% correct.. They have KIF shocks, and are Top grade regarding the rest; Glucydur spring etc..Don’t remember if they are/used to be chrono certified. Also.. what’s the point of it being engine turned if  the bridge isn’t engraved.

Let me know if you need a gen 93160 or 93160A clasp.

Beautiful btw! Gen dial?

RJ.

Bivintagestore is the go-to Guy for cases (he makes the base cases with custom engravings and the whole shebang).

Regarding inserts ”crownartcustoms” is the go-to guy nowadays.

PM me for contact info to both.

Thank you so much !!!! Hope to chat soon mate !

The bubble will burst.

A 79090 for 8000€. A 2000€ watch 10 years ago. Crazy……

Truly welcome back, the one and only O.G. Rolo!

Magnificent.  I've been thinking about a replacement for what I have now on the 6204.
 
 
 

Wow, I’d like to see a pic of that. I have a gen MkII on the Big Gonzo and it’s crumbling like the metal substrate was rolled out wrong or something.

I have a perfect Tall5 redtriangle insert from Crownartcustoms. That is the most accurate one.

INSERTS OF ROLEX AND TUDOR DIVING WATCHES OF THE ROLEX ACRYLIC ERA 
researched and written by Xeramic, on VintageRolexForum
© 2021, all rights reserved
 
1 INTRODUCTION
2 SIDE EFFECT
3 THE MAKING-OF 
4 LEVEL OF DETAIL
5 MISPRINTS
6 COLOR AND SURFACE VARIATIONS
7 DIMENSIONS
8 SPOTTING THE VERSIONS
9 NUMBERING OF THE VERSIONS
10 VERSIONS
11 BACKS AND BORDERS
12 LUME PEARLS
13 HOW TO USE
14 A WORD ABOUT FAKES
15 FINAL NOTES
 
 
1 INTRODUCTION
 
This is an in-depth article about the contemporary bezel inserts of Rolex and Tudor diving watches of the Rolex acrylic era (so, up to 1990, with the very latest ref. 5513 – I didn’t extend my research to the remained years of the last Tudor acrylic Sub ref. 79090).
 
Besides of the dial, the insert is the most esthetic-relevant and – due to aging/wear – also the most individualizing part on vintage Subs or Sea-Dwellers; fully exposed to environment conditions but not to refurbish, it’s a highly sought-after and valuable spare.
 
The goal of this documentation is to enable you to identify any era-conform version, to distinguish genuine from aftermarket stuff as well as correct from incorrect watch configurations, and – thanks to the detailed font descriptions – to spot versions even on blurry or incomplete images; further, to eliminate common uncertainties in regard to dimensions, surface properties, color variations, back profiles and lume dots.

(EDIT:  and there you have it folks, the introduction to the most complete and well-researched Rolex bezel inserts guide I have ever had the pleasure of reading.  

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Please visit the VintageRolexForum to read the rest of this piece:

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 Thanks for reading, stay healthy,
Xeramic

It’s basically hopeless. The perfect dial karge whole thing

Check with philwongz above.

I have a spare one should anyone wish to buy it..

 
hello All - finishing up a  high quality 116610LV "hulk' franken build and put gen indice pips from gen dial on it
lume is poor  
indices look great!
 
who can lume dial and hands properly?
 
mymanmatt is assisting on build 
 
[mention=43268]rolojack[/mention] [mention=39943]Legend[/mention] [mention=44391]Mike on a bike[/mention]  [mention=4649]misiekped[/mention]     any suggestions? 

 
Very nice insert! where is it from?

Athaya has both a tube for gen 702 and a tube+crown that is aftermarket.

You most likely have a 703-crown and the 703-0 tube. It has a similar look to the 702... But is thicker/wider/protrudes more.

In my experience.. it’s most often the plexi/crystal retainer fitment that seems to be the problem when WR is needed.

I didn't know Helenarou made an Eta adapter to put ETA's in genuine spec Rolex 15xx cases.   I thought only Yuki did?  Is one better than the other for anyone whose tried both?