Rolexman

No. Just observations after watching the video 

- no anti reflective coating (huge tell)

- wacky pearl

- no serial# engraved ... really what are they thinking?

I clicked away after that

No AR like the Steelfish chrono... they are from the same factory (Oris-factory) and their quality is sub-par considering Noob, H, JF etc.

I see a lot of nice genuine Rollies based in Japan and I'm looking for a trustworthy member living in Japan who is willing to do some triangle shipment and send them to me (EU) by airmail with a low customs value declared (so I won't be hit with VAT charges). Like we also do with our reps off course

Anyone?

Mark

 You had me

Dude.... Just enjoy it. 

42 minutes ago, gasebah said:

Interesting that this pops up now because I have done some soul searching as to why I buy reps recently. I can see how somebody comes tot he conclusion that fake watches are bought to gain social prestige without being an unconscious bloke. I assume that the majority of reps are bought for exactly that reason. Just look at the fake watch buster posts with kids flashing their canal street reps and brag about the money they allegedly coughed up to buy them.

At the same time I have learned that there are other motivations to buy reps, and I have learned that this is true for most of the members of this forum.

I definitely do not buy reps to gain social prestige or flash them in public as gens. I also buy a lot of micro brands that would only be recognized by some real watch enthusiasts. Plus I own many gens, not in the 5-10000 USD area but the likes of Anonimo or vintage Omega. The net worth of my watch collection could easily buy me a nice Patek. So if I was out for prestige I would buy a Nautilus and end of story.

But what I really enjoy about this hobby is diversity and the process of building a collection. Like to have a watch for every shirt color and every occasion. Having said this there are a lot of smaller and affordable brands out there that are even technically innovative and have better and more reliable movements. I am talking Anonimo, MKII and others. Just yesterday I stumbled over a UK brand that uses Tritium tubes instead of lume. So diversity is no valid reason to buy into reps as well.

 So why don’t we all buy micro brands or sterile homage watches instead?

Obviously the famous watch brands have a lot of appeal. I often read the argument that the genuine brands are overpriced. But the price for something is made by the market and all luxury items are decoupled from the material and manufacturing cost. Why should the brands sell at a price below the market? The brand itself has a value and it was build by real people that earn their living from doing so and pay real taxes. It took decades of work, a lot if ingenuity and billions of dollars to get there. If you feel the brands are overpriced why buy them? It is not like food or medical supplies. Nobody needs a Rolex or a Patek.

Another motivator: The hobby takes over and the obsession to correct the small flaws that still distinguish the reps from their gen counterpart. The hobby itself can be very fulfilling.

So there are lots of reasons other then being fake or gain social prestige.

Ultimately I came to the conclusion that I indulge myself into the thought of owning something I crave for and could not or would not afford otherwise. At the end of the day there IS some hypocrisy involved in this hobby. Face it! 

Probably not the kind of post guys want to read in a rep forum, but at least my "genuine" thoughts.

I love your thought process. For me it is the latter from your possible reasons to buy a fake: I am obsessed and intrigued to get a fake as close as possible to the genuine counterpart in regards to reliability (movement, waterproof etc). My wife owns multiple genuines (which I bought her) and does not like wearing reps. She often tells me: "buy an nice gen as your next watch" ... But simply buying a gen does not give me the same feeling and reward as totally pulling apart a rep and servicing it to be on par with a gen. So my watch box consists solely of reps. 

Interesting. There is some truth in this line:

Why? Well, first of all when people need to respect you based on the watch you wear, you must have a horrible personality! People that wear fake watches, say that they don’t wear them for this reason. The funny thing is that the vast majority of the fake watches are the very recognizable models, the type of watches even people who don’t know nothing about watches at all recognize.

What do you think? 

Mark

Full article:

http://www.watchisthis.com/why-fake-watches-are-for-losers/

Hi! Not very active but lurking here daily 

1 hour ago, kernow said:

Agree with Mike I'm afraid.  How much was it? If not too much live with it or pop it up on M2M. 

40 bucks. Think I will open a dispute  

Damn

So I bought this 18mm Breitling tang form eBay but upon receiving it and comparing it with my other (100% gen) tang buckle it just seems off. The tang I already own seems to have an embossed logo whereas the one form eBay seems engraved. It also appears to be more shallow. I inspected some rep buckle from our TD sites but they appear to be different. 

Could this his be the case of production differences throughout time?  

So is this buckle (on the right in the picture) genuine or rep? I just can't tell....

Thanks

Mark

A bounce for all you Noob V7 junkies

Yeah T.  Don't go mental about the pearl  

You are missing the screws of the auto-wind bridge. 

Well done buddy!

1 hour ago, kokedose said:

Thanks all for your responses. Could I just ask @Rolexman How much is a sensible amount to trim? (I assume its from the crown end of the stem.....Sorry bit of a noob again)

Correct. Crown end of stem. Just measure the distance between the bottom of the crown (when it is in unlocked position = hand winding position) and the case. Most of the time it is no more than 1~1,5 mm. Don't start with clipping too much. It's trail & error. Just small clipping of 1-3 stem threads until you are satisfied with the position of the crown ( flat against the case). Than secure the stem with some rapid glue in the crown thread again. 

Just clip the stem and make it a pull out crown. I did the same to my CPO. It's crown is notorious to strip. It will still be perfectly waterproof! 

Great write up. Always like your pictures!!!

How is the rotor wobble and play?

Given the quality of reps lately I would take the plunge on the red script. I think it will be perfect. Just the lighting and/or green-red contrast. 

I like that model too. I owned a first gen some years ago. Curious about the red script also. Pease share some pictures when you get it. Love the green!

Somehow I like the sound of a Gentlemens club

Single sided AR

Well deserved!!

I want a PAM Sub (44mm) in my collection but I can't figure out which one is the most accurate out of the box. I have read Ale's thread but in regards to Subs it is out-dated. Some models are out of stock. Some are updated and recently even some new models hit the rep scene. Not to mention the whole factory craze: Noob, H, ZF, V6F etc  

Thanks for any advice

Mark