collector Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I am very interested in diving into a GMT II Ceramic from PT, my only concern is the color of the numbers on the Bezel, I have seen complaints here from other members as the color being a gray rather than white, my question is, has this issue been resolved? are the current one sold closer to the color on the gen or is it still gray? and last, is it hard to replace with a gen or aftermarket that matches closer to the gen? I would appreciate advise from members. Alfredo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I've handled the gen before I received my rep.. the colour of the genuine is not white nor gray.. I can descibe it as the colour of white ash off a cigar..not the dark grey ash that I have seen some reps with..you may want to check all the dealers to see if all the inserts are the same.. like the DSSD rep the V3 was too dark grey and the Ultimate now is the correct colour here is one pic of the gen.. AC/Lani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I have one, and the insert number color is very close to the genuine. It is the latest edition (as of about a month ago) Comparing mine side by side with a genuine, it's a really close rep. the only real giveaway is the lack of cyclops AR on the Rep is a glaring defect and a fault that anyone with knowledge of the genuine would pick up instantly, in any type of direct bright light. Hopefully some solution to this is possible. I would replace my crystal with a genuine in a heartbeat if I could source one. Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 My GMTIIC is from the initial run & the insert colors are close enough that I would not be unable to ID my watch as a rep based on the insert without being able to make a direct side-by-side comparison with a gen. And, even then, I am not sure I would know which is which based on the insert colors. As to the cyclops AR, I continue to disagree with those who say this is a glaring or obvious tell. I replaced my crystal with a gen (which has AR below the cyclops) & unless the watch is viewed in just the right light & at just the right angle, you cannot tell whether the cyclops is ARd or not. GMTIIC reps are routinely posted on TZ & I do not believe that even 1 has been called out because it was missing AR below the cyclops. On the other hand, the easy way to ID these reps is by the misalignment (& laser etching as opposed to engraving) of the ROLEXROLEXROLEX around the inner vertical flange of the case around the dial. I have never seen a GMTIIC rep that gets this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collector Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Thanks for all the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 @ Freddy, My problem is I'm in the operating room all day with bright overhead lights. I seem to get a whole lot of reflections, almost like the light intensifies the reflections and it makes the date wheel hard to see.I don't have that problem with any of my watches with AR coated crystals. I agree with you, It would take a side by side comparison to tell the difference. Do you have a source for the genuine crystals, as I would like to replace mine with a genuine if possible. Thanks Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I beleive the color Rolex uses for bezel is called platinum. Arthur, which dealer did you get yours from, if I may ask please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 @ Freddy, My problem is I'm in the operating room all day with bright overhead lights. I seem to get a whole lot of reflections, almost like the light intensifies the reflections and it makes the date wheel hard to see.I don't have that problem with any of my watches with AR coated crystals. I agree with you, It would take a side by side comparison to tell the difference. Unless the watch is at the correct angle relative to both the lights & the viewer, you are not likely to see the AR (or lack of it). 90% of the time, the gen cyclops on my watch looks the same as the rep cyclops did. In fact, neither of the 2 watchmakers (both with active Rolex parts accounts & working within the Rolex service network) I contacted in my search for a gen crystal were even aware of the AR on the GMTIIC (or any other Rolex model). Do you have a source for the genuine crystals No. Mine came by way of a return favor from a watchmaker friend. To be clear for anyone else who PMs me - I cannot source additional GMTIIC crystals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 My problem is I'm in the operating room all day with bright overhead lights. OMG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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