Bork99 Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 People seem to love or hate the B01, and I'm about to pull the trigger on the black dial roman numeral version. I see Joshua's just (today) added a new version of this model to his site, billed as"Ult V 316F". The main differences seem to be 316F (probably as opposed to 316L?) steel, and individually removable rotating bezel guides. "Individually removable" just sounds like "they will fall off over time" to me - anyone know if the gen has these to? Any opinions on whether this one's worth the extra $50? The pictures on Josh's site are unfortunately as good as unusable as any real point of reference these days thanks to the giant watermarks. I understand his motives but it doesn't help us buyers one bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Genuine watch 1:1 construction as per gen. 316F steel with removable rider tabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSRep Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 IF it is a 1:1 construction "with gen used as reference" + 316F steel, then I would say the extra $50 is worth it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Still has the date sunk so far as to make it un-viewable , and an obvious tell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLudlowe Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 (edited) Agreed on the watermark situation - it has gotten out of hand, to the point where is usually wait for userpics to be posted here so I can be sure I know what the watch actually looks like! Edited April 26, 2010 by RLudlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 Agreed on the watermark situation - it has gotten out of hand, to the point where is usually wait for userpics to be posted here so I can be sure I know what the watch actually looks like! Yes, some dealers are covering up the poor date with their watermark, not good. I would not buy this watch, unless they fixed that sunken date. We all know it can be done, but it is not worth the factories time, as peeps still buy this stuff "as is" anyway, shame..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 Hopefully they come out a new version with sunken date wheel fixed. It doesn't bother me when the watch case is or is not 316F, but it really does when I see sunken date wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraExtra Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 Still has the date sunk so far as to make it un-viewable , and an obvious tell... Definitely. The sunken datewheel is the biggest killer even if it has all the other things right. I would not mind paying $100 as longs as they get this one right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mike Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Here we go with 316F again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bork99 Posted May 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 On the 316F issue: it does become something of an "honor among thieves" situation when they are actively in the business of selling knock-offs! Same goes with the "servicing" that's offered here and there... I know about the sunken date-wheel; it's unfortunate and an obvious tell, but since I'd decided to get a B01 rep anyway that's the same no matter which version I buy. Pulled the trigger on the "ultimate" - should be here in a week or two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSRep Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Here we go with 316F again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLudlowe Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Here we go with 316F again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mike Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Even if they did, how could you tell it was the watch you're getting that was certified? They could have just sent a hunk of real 316F to the labs and gotten a report back. That said, the color on my 316F Rollie GMT is definitely closer to gen than the old stuff. It's pretty easy to see the difference, especially up against a gen. I think it's worth an extra $50. You can't tell. That is just it. Not unless have someone test it. Remember, unlike Breitling, Rolex is using 904L and not 316L. So what is the 316F going to look closer to in the Breilting World, a Rolex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLudlowe Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 You can't tell. That is just it. Not unless have someone test it. Remember, unlike Breitling, Rolex is using 904L and not 316L. So what is the 316F going to look closer to in the Breilting World, a Rolex? My point is that there's a clear color difference between L and F, but that's no guarantee the watch you get will be either. Than again, there's actually no guarantee you'll get any watch at all, it comes down to trust between you and your supplier. That's why it pays to maintain a good relationship. As to which color is better for the watch you're purchasing, that's up to you - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 On the 316F issue: it does become something of an "honor among thieves" situation when they are actively in the business of selling knock-offs! Same goes with the "servicing" that's offered here and there... I know about the sunken date-wheel; it's unfortunate and an obvious tell, but since I'd decided to get a B01 rep anyway that's the same no matter which version I buy. Pulled the trigger on the "ultimate" - should be here in a week or two... Did you end up getting it? Can't wait for the actual pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 (edited) doesn't bother me in the least but unless they fix the DW it'd be a waste to pay extra Edited May 25, 2010 by chronoluvvv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 With the black on black datewheel action it doesnt seem half bad.. It's a good looking watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navitimer Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 doesn't bother me in the least but unless they fix the DW it'd be a waste to pay extra Is this the ultimate edition Bork99 refers to? Looks fine to me! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Is this the ultimate edition Bork99 refers to? Looks fine to me! Cheers! no sir its not here's another shot of this 'base' B01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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