Has anyone swapped out the movements in a PAM GMT?

[panerai153]

I was wondering if anyone had made the movement swap in a PAM GMT? I have a couple of 2893-2 movements, that I bought specifically for a Rolex GMT IIc swap, but it's looking like that it's really difficult due to problems with the hands not clearing the markers on the dial, as well as the date wheel too close to the underside of the dial.

Several years ago, I had a PAM 29 GMT that came with the 2893-2 movement. They were available for a little while, and then they started coming standard with the modified 2836-2 movements.I might be interested in trying the swap in a PAM GMT if it's a "drop in" and not too problematic.

[Drulee]

I just picked up an 029B and 063 that have Asian ones in them, so I'd be interested in what the experts have to say as well. And is it really worth the bother?

[dluddy]

It is possible. Zig has done a few for me. You need a new GMT hand to fit the 2893. DSN used to have handsets for the 2893 which is what was used on mine. You need to specify the 1.80 GMT hand size.

[Watchmeister]

Of course the answer is some yes and some no. But I don't know how to identify which is which.

[Drulee]

But is it worth it, or is the Asian copy good enough?

[oncyte]

Can you not bore out the GMT from a 2836 to a 2893 movement? I haven't found a decent 2893 GMT hand for the 029...so I'm sticking with a swiss 2836 movement for now.

[kbiz]

DSN no longer has decent hand sets for the 029/063... his hand sets are freakishly bad... you'll have to source old sets. don't know what his issue is but he doesn't like to disclose his substitutions...

[kbiz]

Can you not bore out the GMT from a 2836 to a 2893 movement? I haven't found a decent 2893 GMT hand for the 029...so I'm sticking with a swiss 2836 movement for now.

you can have a small hand broached and staked... basically resized. only the experienced know how...

[oncyte]

you can have a small hand broached and staked... basically resized. only the experienced know how...

I do have a competent watchsmith....but I think I'll try to source gen hands....I'll probably need to buy the whole watch to do that though. lol

[Snrubb]

Some of the 2836-2 GMT hands fit on the 2893. I had two with the 2836. One hand fit and the other was too big... FYI

[kbiz]

yes they can be resized though...

[tanya]

Yes as Kylan said the hands will have to be broched (sorry if that is misspelled) Rex and Zig have both done these on a number of occasions and that they both likely have that same hand broching tool set that costs quite a bit of money

[kbiz]

as for the 2836 it is a problematic movement even in the swiss... many will swear by it... until it craps the bed on them and spends months with the watchsmith only to suffer from multiple mystery ailments. The 2893 swap is more than worth it if you plan on keeping the watch... I can't imagine an 029 or 063 without the 2893-2 movement.