panerai153 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I was wondering if anyone had made the movement swap in a PAM GMT? I have a couple of 2893-2 movements, that I bought specifically for a Rolex GMT IIc swap, but it's looking like that it's really difficult due to problems with the hands not clearing the markers on the dial, as well as the date wheel too close to the underside of the dial. Several years ago, I had a PAM 29 GMT that came with the 2893-2 movement. They were available for a little while, and then they started coming standard with the modified 2836-2 movements.I might be interested in trying the swap in a PAM GMT if it's a "drop in" and not too problematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I just picked up an 029B and 063 that have Asian ones in them, so I'd be interested in what the experts have to say as well. And is it really worth the bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 It is possible. Zig has done a few for me. You need a new GMT hand to fit the 2893. DSN used to have handsets for the 2893 which is what was used on mine. You need to specify the 1.80 GMT hand size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Of course the answer is some yes and some no. But I don't know how to identify which is which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 But is it worth it, or is the Asian copy good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncyte Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Can you not bore out the GMT from a 2836 to a 2893 movement? I haven't found a decent 2893 GMT hand for the 029...so I'm sticking with a swiss 2836 movement for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbiz Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 DSN no longer has decent hand sets for the 029/063... his hand sets are freakishly bad... you'll have to source old sets. don't know what his issue is but he doesn't like to disclose his substitutions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbiz Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Can you not bore out the GMT from a 2836 to a 2893 movement? I haven't found a decent 2893 GMT hand for the 029...so I'm sticking with a swiss 2836 movement for now. you can have a small hand broached and staked... basically resized. only the experienced know how... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncyte Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 you can have a small hand broached and staked... basically resized. only the experienced know how... I do have a competent watchsmith....but I think I'll try to source gen hands....I'll probably need to buy the whole watch to do that though. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snrubb Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Some of the 2836-2 GMT hands fit on the 2893. I had two with the 2836. One hand fit and the other was too big... FYI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbiz Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 yes they can be resized though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanya Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Yes as Kylan said the hands will have to be broched (sorry if that is misspelled) Rex and Zig have both done these on a number of occasions and that they both likely have that same hand broching tool set that costs quite a bit of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbiz Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 as for the 2836 it is a problematic movement even in the swiss... many will swear by it... until it craps the bed on them and spends months with the watchsmith only to suffer from multiple mystery ailments. The 2893 swap is more than worth it if you plan on keeping the watch... I can't imagine an 029 or 063 without the 2893-2 movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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