hotbody77 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Today my SOH felt down to the floor. The watch is running and everything seems to be ok! But holding the watch in my hands or wearing on the wrist, it makes some noise that it didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Today my SOH felt down to the floor. The watch is running and everything seems to be ok! But holding the watch in my hands or wearing on the wrist, it makes some noise that it didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Could be many things. Really need to see inside to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotbody77 Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 OK guys, i opened the caseback and took some pictures. I think the clicking sound is coming from the small silver gearwheel near the stem?! It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotbody77 Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 OK guys, i opened the caseback and took some pictures. I think the clicking sound is coming from the small silver gearwheel near the stem?! It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Looks swiss ETA to me, can't see the jewel but there is a DM after the 2482-2. would be a good idea to sweep the rotor 180 and provide a photo as well of the other side of the mvmt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotbody77 Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 So done, i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotbody77 Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 @ gtanak, when i look onto the open movement and turn the rotor leftwards it sweeps very smooth as it should be. But turning to the right the rotor turns, but feels like it is getting caught a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mike Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Hard to tell by looking at pics, but sounds like some thing could be going wrong in or around the widning gears/clutches. Everything looks intact. Needs to go to a watchsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Everything looks intact. Needs to go to a watchsmith. Yup. Looks in order in the pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14060 or 16610? Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Autowinding parts hopefully just dislodged and jammed rather than broken. Might just need to be disassembled, realigned, and tightened back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Everything looks like it should be where it is... If there is still the rattling sound or clicking sound, Although its running fine, i'd recommend not to wear your watch till you drop it off at the smith. You might be unknowingly wearing out some delicate (they all are!) part by keeping the movement going.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotbody77 Posted June 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Thank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 If I were you, I would take this incident as an opportunity. I believe all the v2 have clone movement inside, so instead of paying to have the movement fixed, I would change out the movement for a gen ETA 2824-2 if possible. I know sometimes a watchmaker would charge more for servicing a movement than swapping one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 If I were you, I would take this incident as an opportunity. I believe all the v2 have clone movement inside hmm... what makes you say that? I just bought one off Patinga and he certifies its ETA. My dealer also sells SOH V2 on swiss eta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Don't want to spread any rumors here, but I remember I've seen a thread here somewhere that saying all v2 having clone ETA movements. The v1, on the other hand it's possible to have gen ETA movement inside. I could be wrong though, especially I really can't tell the difference between a gen ETA movement and a clone one. Experts, please chime in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Thanks my friend. I will be more cautious with this model in this case.. luckily i got a 100% money back guarantee from patinga.. My dealer provides swiss eta for USD30 more if i recall, then again... how can we ever be sure until we receive the watch. Guess its really down to trust and dealer ethics. Guess for those who drop ship, their hands are tied as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 If I were you, I would take this incident as an opportunity. I believe all the v2 have clone movement inside, so instead of paying to have the movement fixed, I would change out the movement for a gen ETA 2824-2 if possible. I know sometimes a watchmaker would charge more for servicing a movement than swapping one. By the way.. have you seen the movement pics? It looks swiss eta to me. Anyone else can verify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Well, the problem is that your dealer or seller might not know they have clone movements or like to acknowledge. I tend to just believe they are clones when I buy them, so I can have pleasant surprises later I've just noticed that on Josh's website, the SOH are sold for having Asian 2824-2 movement, but if I want, with additional $50, I can get a Swiss 2836-2 movement. Is this a mistake or I can actually, technically fit a Swiss 2836-2 movement if I like? Anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 By the way.. have you seen the movement pics? It looks swiss eta to me. Anyone else can verify? I have seen the pictures. If anything, the engravings on the rotor looks bit rough. I have a SOSF. When I bought it, I was told it has Swiss movement, it also looked like to me until I sent my watch to Zigmeister. He could tell clone from gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Of course Zig could tell the diff.. he prob does it eyes closed and just be listening Its my belief that ETA mvmts are supplied w/o rotors or generic rotors and the factories just plug on an engraved one or whichever suits the watch... Though the photo is grainy, its the inside engraving of the 2842-2 and DM and ETA logo as well as the shock protection clasps that have me believe this is GEN. We need a surgeon here! Experts where are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14060 or 16610? Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 It's difficult to tell with these pics. Some closer and sharper pics of the area around the balance would help, particularly the ETA engraving. With the limited view provided, this appears to be a gen ETA movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotbody77 Posted June 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 today i went to my watchsmith and he verified the movement as a gen eta! he said that he hardly has seen a rep with this quality. he was still amazed. the rotor from the movement was a little bit disbalanced after the fell down. so he fixed it and everything is fine again. thanks for the fast responses and the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Congratz my friend! Good to know you snagged a deal with a gen ETA (Couragee! It does happen!).... do keep your mvmt photos so you can tell a gen eta in the future.. You can get more detailed info from eta.ch website with the technical docs. So the problem was the rotor? That is a common symptom for rattling sounds after dropping or knocking. Wear it well my friend! PHotos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotbody77 Posted June 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 here they are. look at the scratch on the bezel, any idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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