the dude abides Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Dont let the zero post thing run you off, been a member since 2007ish with a different name. Whats the conclusion on the steel used in trevors dssd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Even a simple rub with Cape Cod and a quick wash will make dull 316L white and bright. The most practical conclusion is that without a lab analysis of BOTH watch cases and bracelets, it's all up to the eye of the beholder. Beware of the Emperor's New Clothes ... such a human trap to fall into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchrunner Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Ok.what is the L and the F stand for?? I did not know that there where difference's other than grade 304 and so fourth. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Ok.what is the L and the F stand for?? I did not know that there where difference's other than grade 304 and so fourth. Thanks Different grades of 316 .. that's all. 316L has more molybdenum in it, and theoretically is slightly darker. The trouble here is that in China, steel factories commonly lie about what they are selling you. Beyond that, our "316L" watches commonly have a 440ss caseback .. soooo .. why trust what anyone says about steel color and content? There are too many lies in the supply chain to accept anything at face value, especially where YOUR money is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Even a simple rub with Cape Cod and a quick wash will make dull 316L white and bright. The most practical conclusion is that without a lab analysis of BOTH watch cases and bracelets, it's all up to the eye of the beholder. Beware of the Emperor's New Clothes ... such a human trap to fall into. it's as simple as holding both versions in your hands. You can definitely see the difference. Even if you're an avid capecod user like me and jkay... my 316f dssd was noticeably brighter than my 316L dssd. Obviously its difficult to tell with all the photos here.. but to see both watches next to eachother in your hands tells you that there is an obvious difference in the type of steel used. Whether or not the steel is truly 316f or not is another question.. but visually the difference can be seen when physically compared side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Yes, I will add that I have never held a newer "316f" model watch next to an older model. here, tho, is my Cape Cod cloth after one use on a clean watch ... there is a lot more black oxidation on your watch than you think. Both sides are black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Yes, I will add that I have never held a newer "316f" model watch next to an older model. here, tho, is my Cape Cod cloth after one use on a clean watch ... there is a lot more black oxidation on your watch than you think. Both sides are black ps. The blackness on the capecod cloth has nothing to do with how "clean/unclean or oxidized" your watch is. You could take this cloth to a stainless steel pot straight out of the factory and stil get the cloth pitch black. It's a chemical reaction caused by mineral oils in the cloth reacting with the steel. Take a cape cod cloth to a high polished brand new fork.. and you'll see the same amuont of blackness as if you had taken the cloth to a 40 year old vintage rolex... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Hmm!! OK, I'll take your word on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Hmm!! OK, I'll take your word on this no shiny forks around to test?? haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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