sosodef Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hi Does any one know if there is any obvious difference between 3714 gen case and concepta case? Also, are these rep case water resistant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 On the first, welcome ! I'm sure that we ( on RWG ) all think that before to ask for some think , ( especially about one RWG member, ) best is introduce you first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hey, I replied to your thread on Repgeek. But in short - the "Concepta" case is a standard cartel (rep) case. The major difference is the caseback is not brushed and the inside needs to be machined out slightly to accept a gen movement. The Crowns are also a little shorter than the gen, they don't sit out as far and the real crowns. The Crystal also really needs a good double AR coating. None of these things are big problems though and all can be fixed. I've compared the case to a gen and they are very, very close. You can not source a gen case, caseback, pushers or crystal I believe. I've tried and failed for my project. Not sure about water mate, I wouldn't risk it personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hey, I replied to your thread on Repgeek. But in short - the "Concepta" case is a standard cartel (rep) case. The major difference is the caseback is not brushed and the inside needs to be machined out slightly to accept a gen movement. The Crowns are also a little shorter than the gen, they don't sit out as far and the real crowns. The Crystal also really needs a good double AR coating. None of these things are big problems though and all can be fixed. I've compared the case to a gen and they are very, very close. You can not source a gen case, caseback, pushers or crystal I believe. I've tried and failed for my project. Not sure about water mate, I wouldn't risk it personally. The gen crown is identical to the rep crown. I installed one this weekend Becasue I also got a gen tube with it, I measured the crowns but since there was no difference I kept the rep tube on it. One of the biggest tells is the back. The brushed part it thicker than the polished part. So even when you brush it, you still be able to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) the "Concepta" case is a standard cartel (rep) case. Are you sure about this? If yes I'll open one acclaim now to one person that sold me rep cases , sold as genuine . I bought two 3717 cases . Edited April 6, 2011 by rosnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSentier Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Are you sure about this? If yes I'll open one acclaim now to one person that sold me rep cases , sold as genuine . I bought two 3717 cases . Mate, what he meant is, that Concepta is using the normal "Cartel Portu (3714, not 3717 !!!) rep cases for his Portu projects. If you bought a 3717 from him and he stated it is gen, then it IS gen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Alves Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 indeed, its possible to obtain 3717 genuine cases but not 3714 cases. Genuine tubes for the 3714 are almost indistinguishable from the rep ones, so everybody is good with the rep ones. Genuine crowns are nicer (probus scafusia vs. fish ones). With double AR and brushed caseback, it looks pretty accurate as per gen, some minor tells, but pretty good already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concepta Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I have a probus scafusia crown in the making Soon no more "wrong" rep crowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I have a probus scafusia crown in the making Soon no more "wrong" rep crowns The fish crown is not "wrong" because the first models came with it. The models produced after (I think) 2006 came with the probus crown. It's good to have the Probus crown though because the reps don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSentier Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 The fish crown is not "wrong" because the first models came with it. The models produced after (I think) 2006 came with the probus crown. It's good to have the Probus crown though because the reps don't have it. The "fish" was used until 2004... Best,J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Alves Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 The "fish" was used until 2004... Best,J indeed fish crown was used until 2004, models during/after 2004 are with probus scafusia crown. Same for double AR. Also many of the 3714 models we currently see are post-2004 so therefore come with the new crown. Its an extra detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobster Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Yep, especially as I love the all black dial, I am waiting for Concepta to confirm stock of the Probus crowns as they will be the most accurate for this model. Concepta, surely you can source the gen case, crown/pushers and crystal? Imagine an all gen 3714 franken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Alves Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 crowns are relatively easy to obtain but it not possible to get genuine cases for 3714 so far. so for now, modding the rep case is the only option... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobster Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 crowns are relatively easy to obtain You mean gen 3714 Probus crowns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Alves Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) yes... i mean these ones... I do have one left for my own project but i can order more if anyone is interested. Cheers H. Edited April 8, 2011 by Hugo Alves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concepta Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 I will have rep ones 100% like gen ready very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDorian Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 What's the main difference, pushers and the bubble back on the reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Alves Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I will have rep ones 100% like gen ready very soon crowns you mean? the case and caseback while similar are still different than the gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 What's the main difference, pushers and the bubble back on the reps. The case back more than anything I think. The gen seems a bit more "chunky" I think. I'll try and do a picture comparison. The font is also thinner on the rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 OK, not the best, I'll take a photo when I'm home but you can see the gen case has more "meat" on it and the font is not as thick. It's a bit hard to see the back is not brushed in these images but on my rep it's smooth and shiny like the outer caseback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.