zhoon1129 Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I want to know if the matt finish of the pre v dials are to be closer to gen or just to minimize the shine of the factory fgd dial. I have a 203a dial without matt finish and a 201a dial with matt finish and I think the 201a dial seems a bit more grey and less clear(more vintage?) compared to 203a. I think just leaving the fgd dial as is with just the lume job is better. What do you guys think? Is the matt finish job essential? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 all genuine dials have a slightly sheen effect on the surface. this is the special making of the dials and the special 2 components of varnish. rolli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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w0lf Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Rolli, Do you know the secret ingredients of this varnish or will it sink into oblivion like the varnish of stradivarius violins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhoon1129 Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 thanks for the opinion guys I think leaving as is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardian Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Looks like the dial is applied with light matte spray and then light clear coat??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I have not seen anyone really capture the gen look of the dials. The problem is getting the dial matte and not grayish. Most builds I see are either shiny black or matt grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projectologist Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 It's more about texture than matte. Unfortunately, about the only way to create that subtle texture is with a matte spray... and I think member aardian may have come up with how to make matte spray work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 rc tritec was and is the main supplier for panerai, the original varnish for the tritium dials was UV 820 Zapon Varnisch, a 2 component varnish ( varnish + hardener ) which was non resistent against the light. the yellowing effect comes from this 2 component varnish. this varnish is a very slightly sheen varnish. the brass dial got a fine-bead-blasting and after the galvano black surface in a galvano-bath. and then the varnish on top, and the tritium material was mixed with this UV 820 varnish. rolli Rolli, Do you know the secret ingredients of this varnish or will it sink into oblivion like the varnish of stradivarius violins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Thanks for a great insight, Rolli Zaponlack is actually a very familiar medium to me since I used it many times for sealing solder-on components on PCBs to protect them from moisture back in the day. Actually, when I ran out and was too lazy to run to the radio store supply I made my own zaponlack by dissolving broken ping pong balls (celluloid) in acetone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 but it must be the old zapon varnish UV 820 with the second component hardener. only this varnish with the time makes it yellowed. rolli Thanks for a great insight, Rolli Zaponlack is actually a very familiar medium to me since I used it many times for sealing solder-on components on PCBs to protect them from moisture back in the day. Actually, when I ran out and was too lazy to run to the radio store supply I made my own zaponlack by dissolving broken ping pong balls (celluloid) in acetone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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