MJP Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 New crown and clasp? Or is there an easier way? This is a Tantalium BTW. Also, can these be fit with an better movement? I believe it has a Lemania. This is my favorite Panerai Rep, believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWR Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 what would be a 'better movement'? the genuine has a handwound lemania movement... the venus is bang on reliable and accurate in my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 what would be a 'better movement'? the genuine has a handwound lemania movement... the venus is bang on reliable and accurate in my experience So that would be a no I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 No on the movement. As was said, gen has Lemania movement. On the crown guard/crown. For the CG your choice is to either slide in a small amount of very thin plastic tube around the pin to firm up the lever or replace the cg with Jimmy Fu CG available on ebay for $60 which has the plastic on it. The Fu CG is poslished though and I don't remember what comes on the 192. If you want a new crown, assuming you have the Ti version you could get a Palp brushed crown. IMHO, it is not a rep I would spend a lot of money on as the case is the wrong material in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Unfortunately, JF crownguards don't come in a chrono, so that's a no go... It's a crap shoot if you get a good firm lever on these reps, the worst part is they are ground down at the factory to close 'properly'... sometimes they go a little far, but don't bother to make it right. You could try to get another from the dealer, but there's no saying if you'll get a better or worse one. Best thing to do, if you can is contact the dealer for a resolution. Our trusted dealers will most probably be helpful with your situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Thanks guys I got it from Neil months ago. It was KINDA loose when I got it. You know, now that I think about it, there is a guy who sells all kinda Pan parts on one of the other rep sites as well. I'll check him out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 The loose lever fix has been posted several times, in different version, here and elsewere. Try the search button. Briefly: problems - and fixes - are different whether your lever is loose only in the open position or also in the closed position. If it is loose in the open position only, then give it a try with the solution that kruzer said. Not very durable though. A more durable solution is placing a small piece of insulant plastic wire around the CG pin, inside the lever's hole. If the lever is loose in the open position too, then the problem is because of a too large light (room, space) between the lever and the crown. You may file the CG feet, or add one or more rubber gaskets below the crown, where the crown sits on its tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physher007 Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I have the same problem with my andrew fiddy, but the lever pin in my crown gaurd doesn't appear to be genuine... I mean there is no indication of a hole or pin on the rear of the cg, and it really gives me the impression that the small circle indicating a pin, is just an engraving immitating a pin. Thus, I have no idea how to remove the pin, providing there is in fact a pin to remove. Does anyone else have this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 No hole on any side of the CG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physher007 Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 No hole on any side of the CG? No, as far as I can tell its engraved to look like a hole.... what do you think? Its really boggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I have the same problem with my andrew fiddy, but the lever pin in my crown gaurd doesn't appear to be genuine... I mean there is no indication of a hole or pin on the rear of the cg, and it really gives me the impression that the small circle indicating a pin, is just an engraving immitating a pin. Thus, I have no idea how to remove the pin, providing there is in fact a pin to remove. Does anyone else have this problem? I have that watch, but from the bottom you can, though BARELY, see the pin, its flush and polished with the CG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dachshund Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Keep looking! There is no other way to secure the lever other than a post, it has to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleme Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I have the same problem with my andrew fiddy, but the lever pin in my crown gaurd doesn't appear to be genuine... I mean there is no indication of a hole or pin on the rear of the cg, and it really gives me the impression that the small circle indicating a pin, is just an engraving immitating a pin. Thus, I have no idea how to remove the pin, providing there is in fact a pin to remove. Does anyone else have this problem? I have a 217 destroyer from El with the same problem.The lever pin is loose and drops open a little.I told El and he sent another cg,which was no better really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Keep looking! There is no other way to secure the lever other than a post, it has to be there. Unless the pin only goes partway through the CG, it could work. But its highly unlikely, like dachshund sez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I have a 217 destroyer from El with the same problem.The lever pin is loose and drops open a little.I told El and he sent another cg,which was no better really. I got mine from TTK months back--I think I'm on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physher007 Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I'll give it a shot tonight and report back, I don't know though - there is nothing discrete or subtle about this watch as far as I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physher007 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 There is no sign of any sort of hole on the back side of this CG. The circle you see in the picture is identical to the engraving of REG. & TM. All I can think of is that there is a springbar in there, but I cannot imagine how that would do anything but complicate the machining process, it appears that drilling a hole straight through and running a pin would be the simplest (and most accurate) way to manufacture this watch. Odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 There is no sign of any sort of hole on the back side of this CG. The circle you see in the picture is identical to the engraving of REG. & TM. All I can think of is that there is a springbar in there, but I cannot imagine how that would do anything but complicate the machining process, it appears that drilling a hole straight through and running a pin would be the simplest (and most accurate) way to manufacture this watch. Odd You are right and that is weird. And even if the circle on the CG upper side is a real hole, it just makes for a one-way (push-in only) pin. I suppose your problem is the 'loose lever in the open position' -- else, no point in thinking about the pin. Then, I'm afraid your only chance is drilling your own holes through the CG sides. Should you decide to give it a try, naturally start by drilling the upper side, where you have the engraved circle to sign a point to drill (but pls consider that, should that point reveal as a completely fake point, a point not matching the actual position of the springbar, you will be fu**ed up). Once the springbar (hopely) comes out, you can (hopely) remove the lever and use the first hole as a guide to drill the second hole on the CG back. Then you can make a new pin from a thin nail. I usually use nails 0.92mm diameter, but you'll have to guess from the diameter of the hole in your lever and the thickness of the rubber insulating tube that you are going to use as a gasket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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