MapsMoney Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 okay, so my first watch was a success! I ordered from mary and got the PAM 111 N edition, (noob).. it's amazing.. I love it, great watch.. gonna order a better strap for it also, NOW... I want to order another PAM but this time one that has the date on it, the 351M was my first choice.. Just wondering what the quality of the reps are of these? haven't seen much reviews on them .. Can anyone input on some other pams that have the date on them and maybe a closed back ? Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I heard that the 351 wasn't as good as the 312/320 but as far as i can tell they are the same watch except for the case material. I think these 44mm 1950's are really great watches so go for it. They all seem to have been numerically challenged on the caseback front Angus Andrew/trusty I dont know if they are from the same factory , I do know that Angus started this model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 so should i do 351, 320 or 312? I want the best possible quality rep here out of the 3, i really do like the style tho.. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Also looking at the 359M... All are nice.. The thing throwing me off about the 351M is the Rose Gold on it that isn't accurate to GEN... I really do like the whole look of the date on there, I already have a 111 so I'd like to switch it up a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 so should i do 351, 320 or 312? I want the best possible quality rep here out of the 3, i really do like the style tho.. thanks! Stick with Gens buddy , these are not 1:1 nor are the really that easy to mod except for AR & lume which is IMHO unnecessary and the lack of gen type movement will also leave you dissatisfied. Go buy 005's and closed casebacks etc much less chance of being disappointed with them if you can get over the faults the 312 is the simplest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 See this and then figure out if 312 is good for you: It's not as close to the Gen like your new 111 or like the 005M is. Another good choice that's super close to Gen is 029M Or if you really like that 1950 style case and you think you can handle going from 44mm to 47mm then check the brand new release of classic 127 out: http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/pam127-e-n-maker-11-superlumed-ultimate-edition-on-soft-tan-leather-strap/ Overall the 005M and 029M Noobs are the closest to the Gen and that new 127 looks pretty close too, but no one has gotten one yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Interesting.. I LOVE the 351 tho, that brown style is really killer.... Damn. Guess i'm on the fence between the 312 and 029m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 It's a though one if you discount accuracy to the Gen issues. 312 looks pretty awesome, I don't like the crown, the teeth on 312 and alternate models look so crappy - that's Panerai deal though, nothing to do with the rep. Panerai just really screwed up design of those crowns, they did not use the nice design of the "chunky" crown that 243L use which is based on PAM127 design but adjusted for 44mm cases. That's really my personal dislike, even when I handled the Gen I did not like that crown design at all. Besides that I think it is an awesome model. By the way the lever on the 312 rep is way off, the shape of it. I personally don't mind super small things like font is thinner 1/10mm or whatever all of us love picking on. But the big things that just scream rep are a deal breaker for me. 029M, I cannot really pick on this one honestly, looks awesome. I'm actually thinking of getting it just because it is so well replicated and it is a cool watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 See this and then figure out if 312 is good for you: http://www.rwg.cc/to...ctorial-review/ It's not as close to the Gen like your new 111 or like the 005M is. Another good choice that's super close to Gen is 029M Or if you really like that 1950 style case and you think you can handle going from 44mm to 47mm then check the brand new release of classic 127 out: http://www.puretimew...-leather-strap/ Overall the 005M and 029M Noobs are the closest to the Gen and that new 127 looks pretty close too, but no one has gotten one yet. Based on what you are saying...I would go for the 005. Gorgeous watch... Excellent fit and finish... MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I already got the 005 i made a mistake saying i got the 111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Nice, 005 is a a best historic rep anyway, so you may want to look at an alternative, 1950 cases like 312 are nice... quite different from what you have, visually the appear taller and just look "more expensive" in general. You may want to research other models as well. Have you looked at pam253L Regatta Flyback Chrono? That model looks mega sweet, I used to have standard 1950 version of it, not Regatta and I wore it for about 5 years. It looks amazing on your wrist and definitely gets noticed a lot. But it does not have a date. The only drawback as far as this particular model is mineral crystal that scratches easily so you would have to be extra careful. http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/pam253i-luminor-regatta-flyback-chrono-1951-ultimate-edition/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 im looking for one with the date to be honest, Thanks for the insight tho makes very good sense ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 No problem, enjoy the hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 29M looks awesome to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't know which to order now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Im torn now.. 351M or 312 Both have the date, and both have some discrepancies between gens.. What do you guys think I should pull the trigger with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 or the 29M .. or [censored] it, all 3 ? :} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgarrine Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Iìm in a similar situation, I ordered a 111, but I'm already craving for a complementary pam model. The point is to find a rep that is enough different from 111. The 3xx ones are the best ideal choices, but for what I read in the topic they aren't so close to the gen. So I have search for other ones... I'm gonna make my research. Just 2 questions, Which one are the 1:1 reps? If the list is to long to write here down, how can I spot them in vendors sites? Which ones are the best rep made ever (for best I mean really "indistinguible" from the gen) ? thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 There are no 1:1 reps. They all have flaws, some bigger then others. Factories will never make 1:1 reps with no flaws, so you just have to choose a model with flaws you can live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 of course! I understand that, i just cant seem to pick my next one... Any ideaS? I'm Looking hard at the 209, 088, 29M, 351M, 312 I really want something with the date though, just to switch it up.. the chrono/gmt stuff is also cool.. All I own now is a 005, so I def want to spice up the collection... Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MapsMoney Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 is this the new release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 There you go...Pam 127 Spectacular Watch..Close to gen.. MM Good One Jkay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 is this the new release? No, that is a standard Cartel rep ... before the new release. The PAM Lords here would tell you it's crap. Really beautiful crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 312, 088, 351M are all looking like my top picks now.. what u guys think ? I might buy all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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