dan_189 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I made a discovery recently once I had a chance to get a TC and a Sean case side by side: The lug ends are wrong on the TC case. They should be square like the Sean case on cases without lugholes and the tapered style that the TC uses would be correct for a lughole/93150 watch. Does your Sean have the over beveled edges? Its starting to bug me as well as the fact that some have said it fits a gen 93250 perfectly some say it doesnt... arghhh rep life!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgiv Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I never really noticed the difference between the way the end of the lugs are finished, but you are right. The Sean case is definitely different from the TC. Do you have any pictures of a genuine non lug hole case? I don't have any in my library to compare but I did find a couple on eBay. These are from two different Z serial Submariners. The look like they are tapered to me. Or it could just be the angle of the picture. I also looked at my genuine non lug hole Sea-Dweller and the lugs are tapered on it as well. Good to see this thread still going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Those are definitely more like the Sean case. One of my customers has a gen and they're definitely straight like the Sean case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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irolexu Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 So ultimately the sean is the best case for 16610 builders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 There are other cases, but this one is pretty decent and HAS stampings E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 There are other cases, but this one is pretty decent and HAS stampings E What's better? Anything better without the stamping? I'd prefer more accuracy over engraving and a serial number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Only ever heard of two other cases: - phong its $1150 and still has imperfections apparently, so possibly not worth the money - s.t at $170 not a bad price haven't heard good things though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Does anyone actually have a phong case they can post pictures of? I'm really curious to know where they stand. The other one you mentioned (I won't say it out loud) needs some major shaping to be accurate but if you want lugholes, it's the way to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Ive asked a few times for pics and havent gotten any responses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 The startime case needs a bezel assembly. So add a bit more to the mix. Overall everything fits like gen. The crown tube has the proper step for the tube's oring as well. Case back is correct and fits the tool's teeth perfectly. However, I had to open up the lug holes just a little bit as they did fit the gen bars, but not to my liking. I softened the corners because I wanted a 16800 build. This is of course for the 3035 case they advertise. I haven't purchased the 3135. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Spending 1100.00 on a fake case is just not acceptable IMO I'm sure if you were really patient you could get a gen case for not that much more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I'd agree 1k for a fake case is not worth it. Anyway I'd like to see the st non hole case. Your watch looks awesome only thing is the lugs look amost "softer" and not as harsh as the Gen if that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 That is what I was looking for Dan. I plan on building a 16800 with this eventually. I wanted the look of a watch that has been used and serviced and polished and abused. The case as it comes is more like this(I can't seem to find my original pictures anywhere): Picture courtesy of the OG supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Anyway I'd like to see the st non hole case. There is no such thing. And for christ sake, stop talking about it on the open forum! You will put the entire source in jeopardy. Ephry, will you PM me about your build? I'd like to know more about what's in it. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I'll pm you later brother. I'll stop naming names of sources. If the admins can filter out the source name that will work too. I'll try to edit my posts as much as I can. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I don't see how the source would get in trouble here...there's no markings on the case so it's the consumer that's got to be worried more then st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 The source is very against replicas and has threatened to pull the account of anyone it suspects of using their parts in replica builds. So it's not them I'm concerned about, it's us. One google search and there WILL be no more cases for us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Um...aren't their parts "replicas" of a gen part? Sure you can dress it up as "aftermarket" but it's still copying Rolex design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Everything is traceable. The thing is that as long as these cases are available, the goose should not be gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I just find it completely hypocritical for ST to trip out about their cases being used in rep projects when it can be pegged as a rep case even though it's not marked its definitely replicating the deminsions spot on...on the contrary I'd love to get one and have someone put the correct engravings on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 But they don't make a non hole version correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Spending 1100.00 on a fake case is just not acceptable IMO I'm sure if you were really patient you could get a gen case for not that much more.. I've been patient and watched the rolex forums and auctions and never seen a gen 16610 case go for less than 2200$ over the last year and a half. If someone does better than that it would be due to connections or a buddy. Although I have not seen Phongs 16610 in person, if it's like his 1665 and 5514 cases...it's probably a level higher than the ones we are discussing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Id be more inclined to purchase a non lug hole 16610 case if I saw some pictures but seems like there arent many. The ones on the site have lug holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Well it's just a matter of patients and sending a lot of pms but I'm sure you can end up finding a case for a fair price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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