Inertiadrifter Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I need your advice. I'm in the market for a 111. Sold my gen last Christmas and miss it ever since. I've been researching for 3 days and I think I hit the jackpot. http://puretimewatch.com/product/pam111-n-noob-best-edition-on-brown-calf-leather-strap-swiss-eta6497/ This look like my PAM Any one got one from angus? Please PM me or email me Inertiadrifter@yahoo.com I would love to hear some feedback Any help is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) As far as 111, this is as close to the Gen as you can get today. What you see in those pictures and the video is what you get. If you are planning to have this watch to be your very long term every day piece just make sure you service it once you get it. Reps don't come properly oiled out of factories. Edited March 12, 2012 by lfovco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmabshir Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) ..... If you are planning to have this watch to be your very long term every day piece just make sure you service it once you get it. Reps don't come properly oiled out of factories. I wonder how long people get by not having it serviced when new? Honestly I dont really feel like having this done..... am I dancing with the devil? Edited March 12, 2012 by Jmabshir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertiadrifter Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Ifovco, thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 It really depends, it could run for a while or not, depends how badly it was put together and that varies a lot. The biggest issue is that they may put too much lubricant into some parts and not enough into other parts, sometime they won't do it at all, but usually it is not done properly. Plus I'm guessing they are not using finest Swiss lubricants. Think of the movement like it's a car engine, what will happen if you don't take care of it? Those rep movements really need to be all completely taken apart, cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaning tank, all parts inspected to make sure they are all good (sometimes they are not), then assembled and lubricated to the specs of the movement. And of course then they need to be adjusted and timed etc. The good thing is you you need to service mechanical movement not as often as your car, they should be serviced every 5 years to ensure they have a long life. I wonder how long people get by not having it serviced when new? Honestly I dont really feel like having this done..... am I dancing with the devil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertiadrifter Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Great advice!!! For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Never had any 6497's serviced you'll be fine for a few years I bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) That's true, it can easily run for few years. As a matter of fact I have one 6497 rep that I never serviced and it still runs well after 6 years (lucky). Another serviced runs well after 7 years and keeps much better time. I recently sent my brand new 390 to get serviced since I intend to keep this model. Some parts of the movement were over-oiled , some were completely dry , case lamps were incorrect size, had to be replaced. The dial clamps were not secured properly. The dial was loose on the movement and had to be secured. Rep factories, really don't pay much attention to the movement assembly. So despite the fact your unserviced movement can run ok for quite a while, if you really want to keep that awesome rep I think it's worth getting a proper service Never had any 6497's serviced you'll be fine for a few years I bet Edited March 13, 2012 by lfovco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertiadrifter Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) That's true, it can easily run for few years. As a matter of fact I have one 6497 rep that I never serviced and it still runs well after 6 years (lucky). Another serviced runs well after 7 years and keeps much better time. I recently sent my brand new 390 to get serviced since I intend to keep this model. Some parts of the movement were over-oiled , some were completely dry , case lamps were incorrect size, had to be replaced. The dial clamps were not secured properly. The dial was loose on the movement and had to be secured. Rep factories, really don't pay much attention to the movement assembly. So despite the fact your unserviced movement can run ok for quite a while, if you really want to keep that awesome rep I think it's worth getting a proper service Hey ifovco, I notice you are in SoCal. Me too Where do you send your watch for service? How much do they cost? If you are not comfortable answering in public please email me or send a PM. I will greatly appreciate this. Edited March 13, 2012 by Inertiadrifter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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