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Is this 9411 legit?


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Looking at it on my phone. Does the dial have dial rot? Hard to tell.

Non-original bracelet, probably a 7836. Otherwise looks legit and good to go. Wasn't it just serviced? For a blue dial it's in the range price as the case looks pretty crisp. It's on the high end as it doesn't have the right bracelet.

As an assist for price reference, I just sold a black dial 9411 with service insert, head only and just serviced for $2750. Condition wise mine had been polished.

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Definitely the wrong bracelet. Endlinks look to be correct 380 links. Looks like it got new hands and perhaps a new pearl as well? Bracelet should be a 9315T with a folding clasp with diver extension. Could be a good buy though if the price is right. I would either try getting it for less without the bracelet, or if the price is good, you could always sell the 7836 bracelet and use that money towards a 9315 (which will, unfortunately, be more expensive)

Is that the sellers photobucket page? That name slashd0t sounds very, very familiar :g:

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Disagree Red. Hands and pearl look original. Not uncommon to have a dial with darker lume then the hands. Especially on the snowflakes. A 9315 or 9315T if you can find them in good shape will be around $500-$700.

Save yourself some grief in that regards and just get yourself a good 93150. Many do this anyway as the 9315's wear out.

You could sell the 7836 for around $300 or so. A nice 93150 will run you around $500 with some stretch.

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Looks good overall. As noted, wrong bracelet and the 9135 seems to be getting more expensive all the time (I know, I'm looking for one myself for reasonable money). Looks like the older TripLock (extra bonus vintage goodness points).

The price is average so you can sit out and pass at that price and pull the trigger on the next as they do come around but they are getting more popular and prices are going up.

That one is showing as sold on TZ

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Hey Guys,

The 7836 bracelet with rolex clasp and 380 endlinks (fitted on tudor subs) are also used on the early 7031/32 watches so it is most likely that both watches are equipped with the same bracelet.

I had a few 9411's with 7836 bracelets, one with crown and one with a shield clasp.

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Hey Guys,

The 7836 bracelet with rolex clasp and 380 endlinks (fitted on tudor subs) are also used on the early 7031/32 watches so it is most likely that both watches are equipped with the same bracelet.

I had a few 9411's with 7836 bracelets, one with crown and one with a shield clasp.

Nick,

I'm pretty certain all Tudor Subs came with either a 9315 with 380 endlinks or in the US during the 70's you could get a C & I rivet bracelet instead of a 9315 if you wanted for a cheaper price. Prior to the 70's it would have come on a 7206 rivet. The difference between the 9315 and the 7836 is the clasp. One is for divers, the other is not.

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Nick,

I'm pretty certain all Tudor Subs came with either a 9315 with 380 endlinks or in the US during the 70's you could get a C & I rivet bracelet instead of a 9315 if you wanted for a cheaper price. Prior to the 70's it would have come on a 7206 rivet. The difference between the 9315 and the 7836 is the clasp. One is for divers, the other is not.

Hehe Gavidoc, I won't give it up :) I know the difference between the 2 bracelets and I know the Submariner 7021 is sold with a 7836 non fliplock bracelet. When the 7021 was faded out the 9411 came and with lot's of transitional models they used the same parts. So in my opinion the 9411 is sold with a non flip lock 7836 bracelet.

Look at this original Tudor catalogue, a 7021 with a 7836 bracelet.

tudor4f.jpg

Pictures from an original catalogue Tudor 9401/0 with non flip lock bracelet.

http://www.deskdiver.../Snowflake.html

And I found some more news about the 7836, i'm just looking for that erased picture.

http://www.network54...nowflake+7021-0

Tudor 7016 original fitted with a 7836 according the Tudor t20 catalogue

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1231090115/Tudor+7016-0+Bracelet

http://www.horologyc...-update_27.html

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