nomis Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 I notice that andrew have some gen and rep compared section on his website. but is it the real deal? (or it just put two rep, and say one of it is gen) Because the two watches was too close, look really similar, is that the quality of today rep is that good? http://imgur.com/a/h1u5b/embed#0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asciwhite Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Some of them are that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folex Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Gen is the one with the stickers. It is very hard to tell TBH. Not an easy tell in this model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) That is super rep.... it really hard to tell, if one of it is gen.... Edited December 2, 2012 by nomis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folex Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 That is super rep.... it really hard to tell, if one of it is gen.... The trick is the crown bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Yes....some of the newer Pams are outstanding. Thats why moders and franken folks don't take Intersest In them. Nothing to do but put It on your wrist and enjoy. For some thats just not acceptable. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 The trick is the crown bro. Can it be mod? Gen should be shorter, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Yes....some of the newer Pams are outstanding. Thats why moders and franken folks don't take Intersest In them. Nothing to do but put It on your wrist and enjoy. For some thats just not acceptable. Mike Yes, some time is about how much you enjoy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folex Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Can it be mod? Gen should be shorter, right? Its more so the edges and the logo. The finish is different, but its a hard tell. Don't worry about it. With good OTB PAM's you should just change to OEM strap and you're good to go. The Rep straps are horrible in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projectologist Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Its more so the edges and the logo. The finish is different, but its a hard tell. Don't worry about it. With good OTB PAM's you should just change to OEM strap and you're good to go. The Rep straps are horrible in my book. The poster was referring to the crown tube length which is an immediate tell, more so than the crown itself. And adding to that problem is the fact that the crowns usually don't thread flush to the tube as can be seen on the rep in the comparo pics. Lug wire length and angle are another big tell, but that can be fixed just as the crown tube length can be. Crown tube length on rep Rads has been an issue since day one, and the latest 292's are the only model that has it right so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 The poster was referring to the crown tube length which is an immediate tell, more so than the crown itself. And adding to that problem is the fact that the crowns usually don't thread flush to the tube as can be seen on the rep in the comparo pics. Lug wire length and angle are another big tell, but that can be fixed just as the crown tube length can be. Crown tube length on rep Rads has been an issue since day one, and the latest 292's are the only model that has it right so far. yes, that is the part i can tell the different..... for the 292, noob maker is better or h maker is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kl2onik Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 If only all these replica manufacturers on all watches could improve on their depth of engraving...but thats doubtful to ever happen. Since there are so many variations in every brand and model watch I usually just look at the detail of engraving and its a giveaway everytime. Thats why I seem to stick to the simpler watches like your choice above. A new OEM strap and a crown fix on this model above would make it pass as a GEN to 99% of the people out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 anyone know how to fix the crown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 The trick is the crown bro. Agreed... The real tell is the crown tube that is too long, making a gap between crown and the case!!! But it's crazy good, the rep !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folex Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 The poster was referring to the crown tube length which is an immediate tell, more so than the crown itself. And adding to that problem is the fact that the crowns usually don't thread flush to the tube as can be seen on the rep in the comparo pics. Lug wire length and angle are another big tell, but that can be fixed just as the crown tube length can be. Crown tube length on rep Rads has been an issue since day one, and the latest 292's are the only model that has it right so far. Agreed... The real tell is the crown tube that is too long, making a gap between crown and the case!!! But it's crazy good, the rep !! Yep yep, that too. Definitely gives it away.. But again it isn't really an issue as, 1. people would barely have the chance to look that closely or inspect your watch. 2. They'd have to know what to look for, even Gen owners of the Radiomir won't really attempt to notice this flaw unless needed be. You Should be fine, I reckon its a great buy. Mods are great, but for me I prefer having out the box reps, and this is a great rep. My reasoning being is that modding it would increase your cost by a lot, and since the value of this watch is about $4,000USD, paying anymore than $300-$500 doesn't make sense to me. Keep in mind there IS a quality difference between reps and gen, not only in the movement, but also in the stainless steel being used etc. So enjoy your reps, but don't expect it to be the same as the gen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramerica2 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 If only all these replica manufacturers on all watches could improve on their depth of engraving...but thats doubtful to ever happen. Since there are so many variations in every brand and model watch I usually just look at the detail of engraving and its a giveaway everytime. Thats why I seem to stick to the simpler watches like your choice above. A new OEM strap and a crown fix on this model above would make it pass as a GEN to 99% of the people out there Let me tell you something. Without a strap and the crown fix, it would pass for much more than 99.9999% of the people out there. With those fixes you can add another 9 to that number and still be on the safe side. It's easy to forget how few people can spot a rep with macro pictures online, and only a fraction of those would be able to spot a good rep at real life situations. At least with some brands, with pictures I can spot most reps in a heartbeat. In real life, it's much harder unless I grab the poor guy's wrist and look closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folex Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Let me tell you something. Without a strap and the crown fix, it would pass for much more than 99.9999% of the people out there. With those fixes you can add another 9 to that number and still be on the safe side. It's easy to forget how few people can spot a rep with macro pictures online, and only a fraction of those would be able to spot a good rep at real life situations. At least with some brands, with pictures I can spot most reps in a heartbeat. In real life, it's much harder unless I grab the poor guy's wrist and look closely. I'd have to agree with you. I was looking at someone's AP rep, and it looked great on the wrist. It would seem like his family could afford it, and hence he could pull it off. But after starring at it for a few minutes over and over again, only then I was convinced it was a rep. Ultimately the pushers confirmed it, and on the wrist its even hard to tell about the crown height and the thickness, although I had a hinge and knew what to look for. (Lesson learned: Modded pushers is a must) Again, an AP is an obvious tell with these flaws, and a Panerai as such is much harder(PAM111, 380, etc). So long you can pull it off, these minute errors are virtually irrelevant. And as pointed out by members here, there's no perfect rep, but pretty darned close ones. Edited December 3, 2012 by folex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartn27 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Crown tube and the thread used for the stitching is a dead give away. Stamping of the logos on the crown, case, and buckle are a bit more cleaner/sharper on the original also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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