jerkstore Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Yup. I bought mine a month ago. The crystal profile is nicer, but it does only take a 26.5-28.2mm dial. There's enough metal there to machine it and open it up for a 29mm, or just grind down a dial to fit. Alternatively, you could fit a Yuki 6538 in the "v2" tiger without any sanding. Thinking outside the box, this might be a decent candidate for a 6542: no CG's, coin edge bezel, ... Edited May 24, 2013 by jerkstore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadeone Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) ok yeah, must be a gen1 vs gen2 thing with the tiger cases then... got another email from tigerconcept stating that he special orders the dials for those cases and thats why his standard dials like the brown sterile one on his site (29.2) dont fit. Also just got pictures of an opened tiger case from another member on homageforum with a helenarou dial sitting in the back and it definitely does not go in all the way to the dial mount area... ill see if i can get them up here... edit, jerkstore! you replied while i was typing! can you throw those pics you sent me on homageforum up here for the definitve visual for everyone? Edited May 24, 2013 by shadeone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Sure. No problem! 28mm dial fits: 29 doesn't: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 this might be a decent candidate for a 6542: no CG's, coin edge bezel, ... That was my original intent. But the bezel is not deep enough for the thicker plastic one. And the ridge where the crystal sits is too high and can't be taken down far enough to clear the flat bottomed insert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) That was my original intent. But the bezel is not deep enough for the thicker plastic one. And the ridge where the crystal sits is too high and can't be taken down far enough to clear the flat bottomed insert. A stainless insert, though, would just replace the existing one. Edited May 24, 2013 by jerkstore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Yep, that's why I made it a Sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sor@mail.technion.ac.il Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 any of you guy tried putting replacing the tiger dial with a 27mm yuki dial ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 any of you guy tried putting replacing the tiger dial with a 27mm yuki dial ? I measured the rehaut dianeter on the v2 tiger case at 26.99mm. A Yuki dial would fall right through So, you can grind down a Silix or Helenarou to 28mm, or print a custom dial of that size. Apparent, the old tiger cases took a 29mm dial, but he's out of those and has no plans to make any more, as I understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sor@mail.technion.ac.il Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 wow that was fast. thanks! but two more for you then: 1. crown replacement on the tiger with DG movement with the raffles one. how does one go about it? do I need a dedicated stem holder? 2. any ideas for a 6200 dial for the same case ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 You can ask Tiger, but I think his crown takes a 0.9mm stem, which fits a DG2813 movement. The Rafflestime crown does, as well. As to whether a Rafflestime crown will fit a Tiger case tube, that I don't know. You can ask Tiger and Ken (Rafflestime) about their relative case tubes, to see if things match up. If not, you can overcome it if you have the right tube and a good modder. Again, it's hard to find a rep 28mm dial, 6200 or 6538, or whatever. Unless you get it custom printed, you will have to get your hands dirty. Get a 29mm dial from Ken for like $20. Grind 0.1mm from the rim at a time and try to fit it in the Tiger case. There are ways to do this. Be careful and it will work out. You can also try to go halfway and combine the dial work with shaving a bit off the rehaut to see more of the dial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 The Rafflestime case is the 'Tiger' case. Ken is sure to have a dial to fit it, and his crown/tube surely will fit as well. I made my own dial for the 6204, and the 6mm Brevet '+' crown/tube is from Rafflestime. The crown needs some shaping http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/140709-6mm-brevet-crown/?hl=%2B6mm+%2Bbrevet#entry1046879, but is great for the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) The Rafflestime case is a great option. It takes a 29mm dial, which Ken can sell you. The tiger case on eBay doesn't, and Ken couldn't get me a 28mm dial to fit it. Edited June 6, 2013 by jerkstore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Then Ken still has the first version Tiger case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sor@mail.technion.ac.il Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 thanks for the input. I have talked to both ken and helena which are extremely patient and prompt. ken: - dial is 29mm - fits his case guaranteed. ---> if we consider jerkstor measurements.. it probably means that JoeyB is right and he has the tiger V1 equivalent. Helana: - the dial is 29mm - but will be willing to shave it gently to 28mm (taking care of the enamel surface) - probably will cost about 170 including shipment. given there is a tiger case on the way what would you guys do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Since it's already on the way, get the case and see what version you have. Maybe I got a fluke, and yours will take a standard dial size. After all, I only had an n=1 sample size. If not, it's probably easiest to just sell it and buy a Rafflestime case. Why pay Helenarou extra for a dial that will look too tight once it's cased? Whatever you do, make sure to tell us your tiger case measurements! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sor@mail.technion.ac.il Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 will do. dial and crown from ken on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewFuller Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Hi have a question here..does that Rolex of the bond's series of movies..the goldfinger played any role in destroying the enemies..like the one Sean Connery used in one of the installments by taking a flame of the lighter towards the watch and exploding something very far...something like that..just a silly question but an answer is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sor@mail.technion.ac.il Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 it tells time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Same build as I did before, but this one uses a DG2813... I couldn't find a gilt minute hand of the right length for this movement, but I was able to find a set with a big ball seconds hand. I think it works well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 That looks great! My hands were shiny like that too when I got them, not very gilt looking so I used three sheets of sandpaper 400, 800, and then 2000. Literally just a few strokes with the hand down on the paper in the same direction lengthwise with 400, and then switch to 800 and 2000 to finish it off. It creates a gilt appearance, and of course they are way less shiny afterwards. This is the result 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkstore Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Awesome effect with the sanding. I'm going to try it out! Edited June 11, 2013 by jerkstore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Cool, try it out on a junk hand first to get the feel for it and a loop is your best friend btw, it really helps see the grain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 That's how I did the hands on my 6204. The rep silver hands are lightly plated brass. The sanding gives that gilt look. I used 1500 grit. It takes just a few swipes. Make certain to go in one direction, one swipe at a time. Nice and easy, I hold the hand using a toothpick in the pinion hole. Sanding back and forth can catch the pointy end of the hand and bend it back. I learned that real fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sor@mail.technion.ac.il Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 tiger concept update. I just received the case- the build seems pretty solid, the bezel is bi directional non click and a little looser then what I would like (compared to the DSN vintage builds). crown is bare, and pretty hard to unscrew. bracelet is surprisingly good, no makings of course and there is the odd rivet slightly sticking out.. but is smooth, nicely finished and all the screws work really well. by cartel standards this is one very effective bracelet. the plexi seems passable. not the huge silix dome i saw in some of the pictures, and not too shallow. I don't think I will mess with it for a while. I ordered the matt dial and gold hands- good- great big ball seconds, nice length of hands (correct me if I am wrong) bad- the hands are too shiny, (will get right on cc33 sanding method- thanks) and the loom dots don't fill up the borders. the dial opening in the case is slightly more the 28 mm- I am waiting on a dial from raffles and then I'll sand it down. I must add that the seller was very communicative and proffesional, and shipping was fast! PS does any one have a cheap and descent source for a brevet bracelet clasp? here are some pics- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sor@mail.technion.ac.il Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 update. I have received a raffles dial and aged the dial and hands- * dial- dipped in coffe and oven baked for 2 min in 200C turbo mode * hands- sanded to get the guilt look (think it worked) and then coffe and 5 min in the oven (not really sure about the effect) I apologize for the crappy pics- I was really nervus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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