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Opinons on a 1680


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Can the members here please comment and offer your opinions on the engraving and the case itself on this 1680?

 

Is this legit?

 

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By the way, how well are the chamfer/bevelled edges made on replicas?  Is it something that is found on rep cases?

 

In addition, please check out the clasp

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photo 1 shows the crown to be obscure.  It is however on the correct convex side of the clasp.  It is also the piece that folds over and perhaps it is due to 30 years of wear.

 

photo 2 shows that the other portion(link) of the clasp which is far sharper even on the concave side.

 

photo 3 is now the clasp flipped over and turned 180 degrees.  The right side is now on the left side of this picture.  Note the concave side is actually sharper with the details(harder to tell from pictures) than from convex side that was previously in question.

 

Thank you for any comments/opinions.  

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I would recommend dealing with this gentleman though, more of solid reputation for not refinishing his wears, the seller you are looking at has been accused of refinishing his cases. They are gen but some might be refinished and at the premium he is charging, forget it.

http://www.hqmilton.com/

He is in Cali, better than china for returns/repairs etc

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Guys, I believe that the OP already owns the watch. What he is trying to find out is primarily is the clasp correct for the watch?  to me the watch engraving looks good, The serial number circa 1969 would indicate a Red sub dial. Is yours a red dial? the chamfering on the lugs is normal and should be sharp, they are subject to some confusion however as a good polisher can retain the chamfers, but every time the case is polished it takes away metal, so while the lugs retain the correct chamfer, the lugs get thinner and thinner. Recently there was a good discussion on the Vintage Rolex Forum about a member there who sells watches that are always "perfect, untouched, etc. The accusation was he is having the cases laser welded to restore metal and then reshaping them to look like new cases.

 

The clasp looks OK however it is not original to the watch. A VD clasp code would indicate a clasp built in 1979, so your clasp is 10 years newer than your watch, which is not unusual. If the watch went to a RSC for service, the bracelet /clasp or just the clasp could have been replaced. Remember back them these watches were worn every day in every condition. The first owned could have been a Diver, Farmer, Rancher, construction worker, who knows. But they were definitely not safe queens. Most folks owned one or at the most two watches, and this would have been his work watch, so it would have been used pretty hard. back then the Rolex Sport watches were just well built, rugged ,dependable moderately priced watches. They were not "Cult" watches back then. In fact in my opinion, it's a testament to their durability that so many of

these old watches have survived in the good condition that they are in.

Photos of the dial, insert, bracelet, end links would be helpful in determining the degree of originality of this watch.

 

Hope this helps 

 

Just read cc33's comments again. Are you looking to buy this watch are do you already own it? If from cc's comments the seller is who  I think it is, I would pass on this one, unless you are in HK or near there. If you are in the USA, I would buy a watch from one of the dealers from USA if possible. Much easier to move watches around within a country rather than send one across the pond if you aren't happy, or it turns out not to be as described. The vintage watch market is a minefield, and honestly, before I spent a lot of money on a genuine Rolex, I would do a lot of reading and research. you might not become and expert, but you will be knowledgably enough to not get skinned on a deal.  

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