gmg_3 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hello guys, I have been searching for a gen big red dial for the last few months. Im passed on this dial and was looking to confirm my suspicions. I low balled the guy and it ended up selling. I make the right call or miss a mint dial ? - coronet looks off - lume looks brand new - back looks new - saw a similar stamped singer big red on here that was rep * edit - round O where most have a flat oval O If anyone is looking to let one go for gen pushers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Looks like a rep dial to me. You made the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueprince Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Coronet looks ok to me. I think that's a gen Tritium service dial that's been messed with. Poss a little Red that's been modded to be a big Red plus relumed...badly. The sunburst effect on the dial is very gen looking and the ROC looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 The lume looks a bit white for an old dial, but, otherwise, it looks ok to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 If freddy333 says its ok then I'd take my observations with a huge pinch of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmg_3 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have never seen lume dots that large. All the examples I have seen are small at very exact on installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmg_3 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I found a picture of a service dial with large lume dots. I wonder if the O's from "O T Swiss T O" were removed and daytona added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valty Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Can't believe someone can think this dial looks "ok", Some photos of gen dial for reference First, a service Black Dial : Second, a genuine original Silver Dial : -- Well, I'll take a bit of time to explain what is wrong with this dial : 1- Clearly, the coronet is not service. To me, it's a genuine original Singer coronet 2- The lume can't be original. "White Tritium" on manual Daytona dials does not exist. Also look at the size of the lume dots. 100% redone by unskilled watchmaker w/ shitty material. Even DW's lume is better 3- The "red" Daytona is neither Service or Original "Big Red". No serifs whatsoever, bad placement, bad size, and bad font (just look at this "O"). No way it's Rolex printing. I'll even do a quick photoshop to let you see how ugly it is : Considering it's pretty impossible to remove the "original" Daytona printing w/o dirty result, this dial is most likely fake 4- After better looking, the numbers on the sub-dials looks "fat" to me, especially compared with the gen black service dial. Sub-dial bars have serifs, but numbers lacks of serif (compared to original not service dial). Sub-dials are not looking service dial 5- Lack of serifs on the "T - SWISS - T" -- like a service dial, but this dial is supposed to be original ? no ? 6- ROC looks quite fat to me In conclusion, this dial is a strange mix between original / service printings, original crown, fake red Daytona, and too fat IMO to be original ROC, sub-dial printings w/o the good serif, but sub-dial bars w/ serifs My bet is it's a "good" redone dial... But difficult to say for sure without good macro photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ha ha! Vindicated! Good thread chaps, anyone else like to throw their hand in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valty Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 And to be honest, the "first look" reminds me my first prod. DW dial. Especially the contrast between the ROC / outer ring witch is "too dark", and the silver base. The "sunburst" effect is also too much to be original. It's a big tell at the first look. The only good thing in this dial is the geometry of the sub-dials, it let me think it's more likely a redone dial than a 100% fake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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