Can you identify this movement for me?

[toasternz]

Hi folks, this movement is in a Cartier Santos (mid size) that was purchased a year ago from Trusty. Timeographer shows its 21600BPM. Rotor width is about 18mm.

The movement needs a service so I need to identify it! Thanks for your help.

[alligoat]

Possibly an eta clone- certainly has eta characteristics- slot to remove stem, dial hold downs, gears.

But it would help with better pics- can you take the caseback off, show us the front face?

is it small- possibly an eta 2671...

[toasternz]

16 minutes ago, alligoat said:

Possibly an eta clone- certainly has eta characteristics- slot to remove stem, dial hold downs, gears.

But it would help with better pics- can you take the caseback off, show us the front face?

is it small- possibly an eta 2671...

Thanks for this! I have just now found the Trusty Time invoice and it says 2671 on it, so your probably entirely right! What confuses me is the BPM is definitely 21600, whereas I thought 2671's were all 28800.

So question for you or others - obviously the movement is a copy, is this just a crappy lower BPM 2671 copy? Thanks again.

 

Edited March 9, 2016 by toasternz

[alligoat]

I always go to Ranftt to check out movements- a great source of info

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&ETA_2671

So yes a Swiss 2671 would be 28,800 bph, but it looks like your clone is the 21,600. I had a 2836-2 clone that also was 21,600 and my only regret was that my watchmaker wouldn't service it when it quit working- watchmakers can be funny that way- dealing with clones isn't as easy sqeasy as working on a Swiss eta.

Here's a movement on ebay- maybe you just swap out

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-ETA-2671-automatic-movement-mouvement-Werk-/401085957050?hash=item5d629603ba:g:CMoAAOSwu1VW4Ubp

Or you take your clone to a watchmaker and see if he'll work on it and what the cost would be. Once a clone is serviced, it should be ok for4-5 years, I would think.

[toasternz]

Alligoat, your a champion, thank you for that! 

Based on this, because it must be a 2671 movement, SSTEEL from this board (he's in Findland) can service it, so am going to start there. 

It's good to know I can also source a second hand movement on Ebay if that goes bad. Again thanks for your time here!