TheSociety Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Posted October 20, 2016 @freddy333 so sick! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
freddy333 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 37 minutes ago, TheSociety said: @freddy333 so sick! Per your PM - The non-Newman 6239 came from Japan several years ago (I cannot remember the seller's name, but, if I recall correctly, he deals only with Asian-based buyers) & is powered by a modified 7750 (I removed the auto-wind module, effectively turning it into a manual-wind & reducing the movement height allowing for the fitment of a gen-style/sized caseback) & is fitted with the following genuine Rolex parts: crystal, bracelet, crown/tube & pushers. The remaining 3 are powered by Valjoux 72s (the base movements for all 62xx Daytonas) with modded MQ dials (I swapped the coronets for gens & painted the index markers on the black dials) & fitted with the following genuine Rolex parts: crystal, hands (for 2 of them, but I forget which 2?), bracelet, crown/tube & pushers. 1
ceejay Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 31 minutes ago, freddy333 said: Per your PM - The non-Newman 6239 came from Japan several years ago (I cannot remember the seller's name, but, if I recall correctly, he deals only with Asian-based buyers) & is powered by a modified 7750 (I removed the auto-wind module, effectively turning it into a manual-wind & reducing the movement height allowing for the fitment of a gen-style/sized caseback) & is fitted with the following genuine Rolex parts: crystal, bracelet, crown/tube & pushers. The remaining 3 are powered by Valjoux 72s (the base movements for all 62xx Daytonas) with modded MQ dials (I swapped the coronets for gens & painted the index markers on the black dials) & fitted with the following genuine Rolex parts: crystal, hands (for 2 of them, but I forget which 2?), bracelet, crown/tube & pushers. Damn, I thought you was an Ivan dial man!
TheSociety Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Posted October 20, 2016 @freddy333 insane mod list Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
slay Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 Damn, I thought you was an Ivan dial man!You can get a genuine 6263 dial for 3k, not a PN of course, but who knows if Ivan even makes PN dials (I've never seen one)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
JBowen Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 Didn't know this thread blew up! I'll join inThis is a black 6263 DW I had about a year ago, sold it back to the guy who sold it to me and I've regretted ever since. I'll post some pics of my panda when it arrives in a couple days Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
TheSociety Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Posted October 20, 2016 @jbowen she's a beauty! I tried to get Ish to sell me one too lol no luck!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
freddy333 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 59 minutes ago, JBowen said: Interesting dial. The subdials appear to be deeper than the dial face, which would be ideal for a Newman, but, unfortunately, is completely wrong for a non-Newman. If only the outer minute track was at the same level (below the dial face) as the subs.............
JBowen Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 Interesting dial. The subdials appear to be deeper than the dial face, which would be ideal for a Newman, but, unfortunately, is completely wrong for a non-Newman. If only the outer minute track was at the same level (below the dial face) as the subs.............Yea I thought that too but didn't know a lot back then lol here is another shot of the dial. Oh and put me in that line with@thesociety !Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
TheSociety Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Posted October 21, 2016 Does anyone know if an aftermarket dial for a Valjoux 72 movement will fit a lemenia/ST19 cartel? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
freddy333 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, TheSociety said: Does anyone know if an aftermarket dial for a Valjoux 72 movement will fit a lemenia/ST19 cartel? The short answer is no. The dial feet & subdial centers on the V72 & ST19, as well as the 7750, are all in slightly different locations.
TheSociety Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Posted October 21, 2016 The short answer is no. The dial feet & subdial centers on the V72 & ST19, as well as the 7750, are all in slightly different locations.Would it be ok if I cut the dial feet and use dial dots? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
JBowen Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 The short answer is no. The dial feet & subdial centers on the V72 & ST19, as well as the 7750, are all in slightly different locations.So a gen dial plate, which is for a V72, would not fit a ST19 movement then....right?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
TheSociety Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Posted October 21, 2016 So a gen dial plate, which is for a V72, would not fit a ST19 movement then....right?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkActually I'm 100% sure it fits. I read that it would need to be a cartel case to fit a gen dial. Albeit you will lose the dial feet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
freddy333 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, TheSociety said: Would it be ok if I cut the dial feet and use dial dots? That is what dial dots are for. 1
imajedi Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 How do these ebay dials stack up to MQ? Are they crap in comparison? http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/201692530088
TheSociety Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Posted October 21, 2016 Just got my Franken 6241 Paul Newman back!Just got my Franken 6241 Paul Newman back from some modding Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
freddy333 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 What did you have done besides painting the index markers? Looks good.
TheSociety Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Posted October 21, 2016 Thank you!@freddy333 added a gen bezel, some more casework, and polish out the gen crystal a bit since it came pretty dull. We left marks on it and on the bezel for vintage look though
freddy333 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 2 hours ago, TheSociety said: Thank you!@freddy333 added a gen bezel, some more casework, and polish out the gen crystal a bit since it came pretty dull. We left marks on it and on the bezel for vintage look though Are you sure your bezel is gen?
TheSociety Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Posted October 21, 2016 Are you sure your bezel is gen?I'm 90% certain. My dad hoard vintage date just parts (he owns a bunch of gens) and regularly buy lots from eBay and elsewhere with random parts. He had this sitting in his parts box for maybe 10 years and it happen to be the one I need so I didn't mind - it looks way better than the One that was on there (I was getting ready to buy a Phong or equivalent). Yodog installed it and said it must be gen. Either way I'm extremely happy that my Dad had it form me i looked at various gen 6241 bezels and couldn't be conclusive (Rolex magazine listed at least 4 variations of this bezel)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
philwongnz Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 Are you sure your bezel is gen?I can't tell if it's gen, but a 200 gen bezel doesn't come cheap.Sent from my SM-N930F using Tapatalk
freddy333 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 It is a nice looking bezel, but I do not believe it is genuine. On the other hand, coming from your dad is even better then gen.
TheSociety Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Posted October 21, 2016 It is a nice looking bezel, but I do not believe it is genuine. On the other hand, coming from your dad is even better then gen.Agreed! It's funny my dad gave me an 36mm date just last year a to get me into watches. Then last month I gave him a mymanmatt Franken datejusf (gen crown, gen bezel, gen dial) as a gift. He couldn't be happier. He wears it more than his Gen!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
paristoto Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 Does anyone know if an aftermarket dial for a Valjoux 72 movement will fit a lemenia/ST19 cartel? Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot out the box. But yes. Its doable.
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