dadog13 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 (edited) guys...i wanna see some nice ideas in the RT polls section...it is funny to do it...we can actually choose what reps we want to see...join there and post your replica submission... LINK....RT Watch polls i have posted some nice ideas...at least i think so...Panerai...Daniel Roth....Roger Dubuis...join me... act now! Edited February 2, 2007 by dadog13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthebhoy Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 ......And as I have been reminded, you must not produce a poll. New suggestions are for discussion only at this stage. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?s=&...st&p=190688 JTB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 ......And as I have been reminded, you must not produce a poll. New suggestions are for discussion only at this stage. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?s=&...st&p=190688 JTB Well I'm not going to personally discourage any polls,... I don't mind.. but for anyone that has, poll allergies,.. there will hopefully be threads for you to enjoy... This is reality... we can now pick and choose our replicas... we only need to participate... and that means even if you don't have any watch ideas... join in the threads and give your opinions.. we value your input ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Check out the thread in my signature... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I dont want to be either sceptic or pessimistic but I think is time to start seeing some results or at least some more specific feedback (which exactly models will be reproduced, when, which intentional flaws , what movement etc..) coming from the original RT polls. You all know that like others, I was very enthusiastic about the polls and the idea of having a brand new rep never seen before, but throwing ideas in the air and sending "letters to Santa Claus" (by keep asking new watch models), it makes me feel that we are creating excitement with a high possibility of a later disappointment. I personally have the feeling that we are loosing our time. Only with the watches included into the original RT Polls, Jay has more than 5 to 6 new watch models to reproduce. That should take more than 18 months (1 watch/3months). I think that's pretty enough. Assuming that Jay starts the work today, only with the IWC and EBEL (apart movement considerations) , he has enough work for the next 4 months. We will start see the first versions of them around Summer 2007. I know that Jay has internet access problems (still ???) and cannot work on the first choices. So let's give China the time required to recover connections with the rest of the world and wait to see the results. If everything goes OK and according to expectations, I will be the first one to "flood" this board with new watch "wet wishes". PS: With the above I am not firing neither RT nor Jay. I still feel that it was/is a great initiative and if they manage to properly produce the 2 first choises only of the polls, they will be the heroes of this board and I will be the first to applaud them. .... but let's see something first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 AMK, I guess this is the other side of the coin of 'Frantic Enthusiasm ' that you displayed earlier, and more than a bit of frustration that Jay did not have the time to research your submission for you, despite it going outside of his guidelines. I think you need to understand that Jay is risking a bath tub full of cash to bring our ideas into reality, so must take the time to make the right decision. He has already taken us up on improving the Bond PO, which is just about complete,.. and has stated that he will replicate more than one on our list, which is only a list of five... Jay has proven time, and time again that he is a man of his word,.. so let's give him all the time and respect he needs to make the annoucement,... after all it's his money on the line. If you don't care to participate in further discussions.. that's your prerogative, however if you are going to throw rocks into the gears of creativity and fun for others... I think it's anti-progressive, and gives a negative impression that can mar us all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 AMK, I guess this is the other side of the coin of 'Frantic Enthusiasm ' that you displayed earlier, and more than a bit of frustration that Jay did not have the time to research your submission for you, despite it going outside of his guidelines. I think you need to understand that Jay is risking a bath tub full of cash to bring our ideas into reality, so must take the time to make the right decision. He has already taken us up on improving the Bond PO, which is just about complete,.. and has stated that he will replicate more than one on our list, which is only a list of five... Jay has proven time, and time again that he is a man of his word,.. so let's give him all the time and respect he needs to make the annoucement,... after all it's his money on the line. If you don't care to participate in further discussions.. that's your prerogative, however if you are going to throw rocks into the gears of creativity and fun for others... I think it's anti-progressive, and gives a negative impression that can mar us all..... @RT: Wrong. I will not be frustrated at all if the EBEL is not reproduced. (.... though is still part of the second open "wet wish list" ) In fact I will be very happy if the IWC is reproduced by Jay. I am not sumbitting more watches because I and many others members we have already submitted many watches (20+ if you add the deleted ones ) ..... to be honest I personally consider them enough as a number . Of course if others want to submit more.... thats fine with me. As I said earlier, I still believe that this is a great initiative. I never said that either you or Jay you dont stick to your word ......and if I recall that right, I also said that I am not firing against anybody. Sorry you took it that way. Not anybody can take a positive critisism. Few more words ...... I was a bit surpised from your comments. I am neither throughing rocks, nor I am negative (...pragmatism does not EQ negativism) in my comments and definaterly I am not anti-progressive. Progession is a step-by-step process. Step 1:Pick the watch, step 2:make the watch, step 3:improve the watch, step 4:pick another watch ...... and so on. .... I fell that there is no point to add any further comments or to continue this discussion further. You can keep going if you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I think is time to start seeing some results or at least some more specific feedback (which exactly models will be reproduced, when, which intentional flaws , what movement etc..) coming from the original RT polls. but throwing ideas in the air and sending "letters to Santa Claus" (by keep asking new watch models), it makes me feel that we are creating excitement with a high possibility of a later disappointment. I personally have the feeling that we are loosing our time. Only with the watches included into the original RT Polls, Jay has more than 5 to 6 new watch models to reproduce. That should take more than 18 months (1 watch/3months). I think that's pretty enough. Assuming that Jay starts the work today, only with the IWC and EBEL (apart movement considerations) , he has enough work for the next 4 months. We will start see the first versions of them around Summer 2007. I know that Jay has internet access problems (still ???) and cannot work on the first choices. So let's give China the time required to recover connections with the rest of the world and wait to see the results. If everything goes OK and according to expectations, I will be the first one to "flood" this board with new watch "wet wishes". Okay,.. maybe there is some sort of positive message there,.. maybe somewhere,.. but all I see is .. "step up to my timetable and my way of working this whole thing out, or I will spread my doubt about the whole affair." I personally don't want to be held accountable for your expectations and I'm sure that Jay would be perplexed by them... Have you considered that he may want to keep his decisions secret until he has a head start on his competition ? Maybe his money has been sunk into the Casino Royale, and he's awaiting to rebuild his nest egg,... and possibly he may even change his mind,.. I certainly don't have an inside track into his financial standing or his reasoning, but don't think that a month after the polls closed is a time to be looking at the process out of the corner of your eye... To me it displays a certain impatience that is counterproductive to any venture, especially in mid-hill-push. Take part in the dream or don't,.. there are no guarantees when investing only ideas, and not capital,... One thing that is for sure,.. if you don't dream and do,.. you accomplish nothing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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