vmena Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I've bought a genuine dial for a 15000 rolex date and my watchmaker didn't want to glue the dial to the movement and decided to cut the original feet and to weld a new ones in the ETA 2824 position. See pics for better explanation... he's really an expert! Genuine dial New feet position after welding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Interesting, but I honestly don't understand why he'd rather weld to the dial than use a little (easily removable) glue..... Did he offer an explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Nicely done, but very difficult to do... One has to be very careful when soldering as the heat could damage the dial. No doubt, however, that if you have a watchmaker who can do this sort of work, it is the best way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsterRider Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I'm not a fan of using glue either. If/when I do a job like this, I'm going to try the epoxy route. Seems to me that, with a dremel, you could cut the feet off the dial, place them in the movement, put a small dab of epoxy (jb-weld, or something like that) on the dial side of the feet and then place the dial on the movement. You could purposely place the feet shallow in the movement to be sure that you get good contact with the dial. When it's done setting up, it'd be as strong as you would ever need it to be and it'd be much easier to work on in the future. SR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Just make sure the dial is aligned properly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I'm not a fan of using glue either. If/when I do a job like this, I'm going to try the epoxy route. Seems to me that, with a dremel, you could cut the feet off the dial, place them in the movement, put a small dab of epoxy (jb-weld, or something like that) on the dial side of the feet and then place the dial on the movement. You could purposely place the feet shallow in the movement to be sure that you get good contact with the dial. When it's done setting up, it'd be as strong as you would ever need it to be and it'd be much easier to work on in the future. SR I've thought about trying it that way too, but sure as hell wouldn't want any JB Weld dripping down into the movement. So, no, glue or slow set epoxy between the dial and spacer ring is the way to go for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted February 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I'm not an expert but I can imagine that there's no better way to fix the dial than using the dial feet when they match the movement holes made for that. When you use glue is because you no other way. He told me that welding dials is something that not many people is able to do, even professional watchmakers and at the "school" there are specific classes for this topic. Seems to be he always was an advantaged student PS: I first asked him to glue the dial and he answered me that "if I wanted the watch glued I'd better do it by my self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavor flav Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I'm not an expert but I can imagine that there's no better way to fix the dial than using the dial feet when they match the movement holes made for that. When you use glue is because you no other way. He told me that welding dials is something that not many people is able to do, even professional watchmakers and at the "school" there are specific classes for this topic. Seems to be he always was an advantaged student PS: I first asked him to glue the dial and he answered me that "if I wanted the watch glued I'd better do it by my self i just use dial dots. no risk of damage. jb weld? how the hell can you ever remove the dial then? soldering can burn the paint on the dial and can be misaligned anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 wouldn't even dare doing this myself to a dial or trust my local watchsmith but very nice idea and work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 i just use dial dots. no risk of damage. jb weld? how the hell can you ever remove the dial then? soldering can burn the paint on the dial and can be misaligned anyway. We were talking about setting the feet in the holes and then JB Welding the dial to the feet in place. You would have then effective relocated the feet and could remove the dial anytime you wanted by loosening the feet set screws as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted February 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 i just use dial dots. no risk of damage. jb weld? how the hell can you ever remove the dial then? soldering can burn the paint on the dial and can be misaligned anyway. flavor... I would never tried to do it my self ( I would use your system). If a watchmaker does it surely is because he's enough experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted February 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 We were talking about setting the feet in the holes and then JB Welding the dial to the feet in place. You would have then effective relocated the feet and could remove the dial anytime you wanted by loosening the feet set screws as usual. Thanks chief... I wouldn't have been so illustrative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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