Category 5 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 H series, #35 out of 2000. Hmmm...I've seen this watch so many times! Wow, this one has an expensive steel bracelet attached, and the bidding is just over $2000. What a bargain. http://cgi.ebay.com/NIB-Panerai-PAM-111-LT...1QQcmdZViewItem I wish people knew to investigate the source of feedback before assuming a positive rating ensures their safety. i've reported this one. So should you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 H series, #35 out of 2000. Hmmm...I've seen this watch so many times! Wow, this one has an expensive steel bracelet attached, and the bidding is just over $2000. What a bargain. http://cgi.ebay.com/NIB-Panerai-PAM-111-LT...1QQcmdZViewItem I wish people knew to investigate the source of feedback before assuming a positive rating ensures their safety. i've reported this one. So should you. reported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section8 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebrooke Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 REPORTED WITH A DETAILED MESSAGE RE-GARDING THE E-BAY HABIT OF LISTING OBVIOUS FAKES..WITH A QUESTION TO THEM ...WHY? WHY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak244 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Damn.. I wrote up a long group of questions and pointed out all the things that made it a rep, and then went to submit and report and the firewall at my work wouldn't let me Oh well, you guys look like you have the situation under control!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlickAK Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 What gives it away the most? I tried to copy the pic to word and blow it up as much as I could. Looks like a non-dagger needle and I can't even see the swan neck? I e-mailed the seller asking them to provide a clear pic of the pic, and maybe I would bid BSAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Posted March 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Almost 24 hours after i reported it for the first time...21 hours to go, and ebay still has it up there. ...yet I tried listing 2 gift cards at the same time and one was pulled within 5 minutes citing the policy "You may only sell 1 gift card in a 7 day period. Your auction has been removed" I guess they want to get their commission before they take action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Asked about its' origins and warranty status...got this "It was bought at the Panerai in Florence ITALY. I have the receipt and warranty card" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_uk Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I guess this one is a tough call for ebay as the guy is saying it's authentic, and there are no obvious giveaway signs unless you're into reps and know what to look for, BTW ebay don't wait for their commision before taking action because that would be pointless as all fees are refunded if an auction is cancelled after it ended, and no I don't work for ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 how can one try to pass rep with asian unitas without full swan neck as gen? And the deal with that bracelet, if I am not wrong, a gen bracelet wouldnt even fit gen 111. Im so sorry for the bidder, there are so uneducated men these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlickAK Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 how can one try to pass rep with asian unitas without full swan neck as gen? And the deal with that bracelet, if I am not wrong, a gen bracelet wouldnt even fit gen 111. Im so sorry for the bidder, there are so uneducated men these days I'm thinking the same thing. A gen s/s bracelet is over $5 g's and I believe I read somewhere that it is not compatible to the gen 111 casing. Here is the response I received: "Don't worry about it. I am not shipping outside the US anyway so you CAN'T bid. Therefore, your decision is made!" Hence, no pictures of the back movement were sent to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak244 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) What gives it away the most? I tried to copy the pic to word and blow it up as much as I could. Looks like a non-dagger needle and I can't even see the swan neck? I e-mailed the seller asking them to provide a clear pic of the pic, and maybe I would bid BSAK Bracelet issue, serial number, if you look VERY close i think it has a recessed cannon pin I mean the whole fact that all of the pictures are poorly lit and not very close is kinda sketchy... Edited March 14, 2007 by dak244 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 The serial # is a DEAD giveaway if you ask me. I mean there is only ONE #35 H series 11 out there. Funny how it comes up for sale so frequently on ebay. I guess the bidder will probably not even know the difference when he gets the watch. He'll probably get nabbed when he takes it in for service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlickAK Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) Wow! @ the number of bidders. Edited March 14, 2007 by BigSlickAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlickAK Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) sue6738 Poor Sue Edited March 14, 2007 by BigSlickAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlickAK Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) Yep, I see it now All the H0035/2000 which are on all the backsides of the PAM111H's. Must suck to be the guy that owns the real H series #35. Edited March 14, 2007 by BigSlickAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 i quess some rep manufacurer could be in posses of the gen anyway recessed canon pinion is truly a dead givaway. the ss bracelet is a one even more. Someone should PM that bider pointing out the obvious flaws before its to late! I dont have bay account so i am unable to do it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 btw nobody needs additional pics of the movement as the one listed clearly shows lack of swan neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 the seller said they would not ship out of the us, the buyer is in australia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 problem solved but on the other hand he could pm previous buyer and sell this replica to him or maybe it was just an auction to figure if this replica could be sold at the bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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