Black and white...

[Guest Sql_pl]

Cheers!

[By-Tor]

The upper subregisters are touching the 10'o'clock and 2'o'clock hour markers in the black version which looks dead wrong. Otherwise it's a great looking watch though.

The white version looks mighty good and correct. Is it equipped with Swiss 7750?

[Guest Sql_pl]

By-Tor... both are genuine :)

[By-Tor]

Taking a second look... there IS a gap between the subdials and hour markers in the black one too. This is wrong in the Asian 7750 powered reps so I assumed... what I assumed. Subdials in black version ARE closer to hour markers than in the white one though. Wonder why...

But I got taken with this one.

Edited April 17, 2006 by By-Tor

[eLiNK]

Subdials in black version ARE closer to hour markers than in the white one though. Wonder why...

But I got taken with this one.

optical deception, I assume ...

[eLiNK]

BTW, nice twins

how much is the shipment?

[Guest Sql_pl]

By-Tor have a look at this pic - the gap between markers and subdials seems to be really smaller on the black one

[Guest Sql_pl]

[By-Tor]

That's what made me erronously assume the black one is a fake. Perhaps it could be a aftermarket dial?

All genuine newer (post El Primero) Daytonas (that I've seen) have a noticeable gap between the subdials and 2 and 10 hour markers. The black one you show also have the 9'o'clock hour marker closer to the sub register. Also the Swiss Valjoux 7750 version have them correct. However ALL Asian 7750-powered Daytonas (that I've seen) don't have the gap.

I'm not saying this is ALWAYS the case though, I'm far from being a Daytona expert.

The factory photos show it too:

Edited April 17, 2006 by By-Tor

[Guest Sql_pl]

By-Tor... you posted a pic of a pre-2000 El Primero powered Daytona 16520.

It is a different thing than 116520.

Small sec register at 9 instead of 6.

Plus the subdials are differently located.

See - the centers of the subdials located at 3 and 9 are above the lne between 3 and 9 markers on the new one while in the El Primero one they are centered on that line.

[By-Tor]

Oops, you're right I did. That was sloppy. So... apparently the black version of new Daytona HAS larger subregister diameter (or longer markers) which makes the subdials look closer to the hour markers. We learn something new every day, eh?

I hope I'll get it right this time. Here's two genuines that have the same difference as your watches.

Edited April 17, 2006 by By-Tor

[slay]

its most likely just an optical illusion because of the colors

and you can tell its gen by the little rolex crown-symbol @12 o'clock. seems they just cant get that right on the reps!

[By-Tor]

If Maciek says it's genuine then it's genuine (which it obviously is). I would never doubt his words. I was just wondering about the dial. Actually it wasn't the first time I've observed this.

I believe the subdials ARE closer/larger in the black version as you can see from the comparison picture he posted. I don't think anyone on RWG ever noticed this before. I also scrolled through several gen pictures and always see the same thing. This would make the black rep version closer to the genuine.

More gen pics (I doubt it's just a "optical illusion"):

Edited April 17, 2006 by By-Tor

[ehtolcad]

it could just be me, but the font used in the black dial's subdials seems just a bit thicker as well

[madmex]

Through the years, more frequently than you would think, Rolex has changed dial suppliers and manufacturing proceses.

Small variations are commonplace... I'm very close to pulling the trigger on ELs white Daytona.