8o8 Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'd like to hear some opinion on this seadweller. what are the flaws that you can see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) The first thing is the dial. It has a sort of maxi-dial which is incorrect for a Sea-Dweller. Too big markers, the font is also incorrect. It has a fat minute hand which is also not correct. The crown guards are not correct. I also don't like these SELs.... Cheers! Edited April 23, 2006 by Sql_pl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Oh and the bezel should be higher, the crystal should be thicker and the caseback hologram should have 16600 wrtten on it not 116600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Compare it with this gen: BTW I am NOT an expert in Sea-Dwellers.... just wait for some experts to show up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 I agree with Maciek's comments on the watch in question, and have a few observations of my own to add. 1) Genuine 16600 SD's have a very distinct He Valve @9:00 2) Genuine 16600's have a crystal that is slightly smaller in diameter than a standard Submariner 16610 (I believe by almost 1mm). As Maciek mentioned prior, the crystal is also thicker in height. For Sea-Dweller reps, the only one I'd recommend is the vintage MBW or WM 1665, as those are the most accurate of *any* Sea-Dwellers available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGladeRaider Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 For Sea-Dweller reps, the only one I'd recommend is the vintage MBW or WM 1665, as those are the most accurate of *any* Sea-Dwellers available. Pardon my ignorance, but could you explain a little more anout the MBW and WM1665? I don't know what that means and I don't see anything on Joshua's site, or King's site that is labeled like that. Thank you, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Sure, you bet. MBW is an acronym for 'Maria Best Watch', while WM is for 'Watchmaster'. Both are very accurate replications of vintage and modern watches, most notably of Rolex. There are many stories and theories behind these watches; lots of interesting reading here and on TRC if you search through the archives. In the meantime, here is a posting I put together which analyzes a pair of the more popular MBW's- The 1680 and 1665. How to identify a vintage MBW Rolex. Cheers, R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignasty Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'm no expert but I know those SEL's look awful on the back side. Dead give away. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8o8 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 thanks for the comments guys. it is a very interesting excersise for me. I am unable to see the differences that has been highligheds... 'cept maybe 1) crown guard coming to a sharper peak in the gen that Sql_pl pictured. 2) 16600 on the case back that is wrong 3) maybe the difference between the thickness... though with out comparing I wont be able to identify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 The differences are easier to spot if you've held a genuine; especially easy if you've had the opportunity to hold a genuine next to a rep! Pics can be deceiving at times, as photo quality, lighting, angles etc. all play a crucial role in perception. However, if you look at this stuff long enough, you'll develop an eye for it, and it will become much easier to spot a typical replica (or a genuine)! Modified reps, however, can be a different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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