Real or fake PAM111h?

[none]

Hi there,

Can anybody tell me if the following PAM111H is gen or fake? Please let me know.

Edited June 29, 2007 by none

[wheaton26]

why would you post the same thing again? just curious.

[none]

why would you post the same thing again? just curious.

Sorry, I won't do that again.

Edited June 29, 2007 by none

[none]

And what about this one:

[chris5264]

The 111 looks like a gen to me, is it yours? The movement is the best way to tell, any movement shots?

[none]

I say with my VRBE (Vodka Redbull Eyes) THEY are fugezi!!! But thats me drunk like always!!!

//robi

Sorry no movement shots, I found these pics on a forum. Why do you think they are fake, Verbal Kint?

[fishgodeep]

Both Gen.....L Swiss Made L on 111 + pin on CG is correct size and perfectly central

118 ....I'd say gen ...same detail on CG and A's look correct

[omisana]

Is the gen 111h suppose to have brushed or polished bezel....cuz davidsen provides with full moded 111h its with polished bezel....pls advise

[archibald]

Is the gen 111h suppose to have brushed or polished bezel....cuz davidsen provides with full moded 111h its with polished bezel....pls advise

Be advised: the 111H has a brushed bezel and guard..[on edit: thanks for the correction sssurfer--got turned around]

BTW, unless someone has solved the dial and pin problems, those watches are instant-tell gens.

[sssurfer]

Be advised: the 111H has a polished bezel.

Surely you wanted to type 'brushed', archie

[archibald]

Surely you wanted to type 'brushed', archie

Absolutely....

[V]

Both watches are 100% genuine.

[new & improved osteopath]

The crown on the titanium model seems to be seated right on the cae- shouldn't there be a small gap there??

-O

[t]

Both watches are 100% genuine.

if V say this you can be sure... he is the expert!

for me 111 is also gen... other don

[Watchmeister]

Both are gen. Crowns vary as to how far they sit off the case based on the model (and year for that matter). The CG pin and lettering are the instant tell-tale signs. And yes, I would always rely on V's opinion. He is probably staring at his gens as he makes these comments. I haven't had owned a gen PAM since the 2893's came out on Honpo.

[V]

The dial text is almost always a give away on historic Pams... PLUS the pin on the cg is sitting so flush and perfect no rep till date has ever achieved this.

Of course they are so many other details determining those two are gen but those two are my first observations.