archibald Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.com/BrandyCurtis-SS-REAL-C...bayphotohosting This would be cool in more than a few reps, if it's for real. And if it works.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 New 3rd-Generation Tourbillon from Sea-Gull. Currently the RRP is US$4000 but will certainly go down in the future.... Comments please! Dixmont (aka Guangzhou watch works) Tourbillon When will we see these movements in a rep?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtolcad Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 they can make a central tourby, but no v72 copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Rose gold skeleton tourbillon Sea-Gull special skeleton tourbillon with power reserve and date indicator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I am not sure that this BarndyCurtis is a tourbillion at all looks like an ordinary chinese automatic to me BarndyCurtis is likely trash But maybe the sea-gull one is a true tourbillion.....we need more details about all of this. g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 This would be cool in more than a few reps, if it's for real. And if it works.... That's not a Tourbillion. You can see it clearly in the pic, it's a regular escapement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spock Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 In The netherlands there is a nice person (Patrick) who is selling these: http://www.signswatches.nl/ real working tourbillons with 2 year full guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 The chinese VJ72 is coming..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 That's not a Tourbillion. You can see it clearly in the pic, it's a regular escapement. So do you think this guy is a scammer by pretending it's a tourbillon? I've never seen any Asian autos costing that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 What about these? http://detail.china.alibaba.com/buyer/offe...l/41203202.html http://detail.china.alibaba.com/buyer/offe...l/41203117.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 So do you think this guy is a scammer by pretending it's a tourbillon? I've never seen any Asian autos costing that much. If I charged $2000 for this, it wouldn't make the escapement into a Tourbillion ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 That is true Pugwash but maybe now we need a Asian tourbillion expert.....to tell us whats out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Follow this link to the greatest Tourbillion maker in Asia http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=3454 Some description of a simple tourbillion Here is a graphical illustration of the tourbillon parts. The tourbillon device has the escape wheel, lever, and balance wheel all mounted in a carriage made of a lightweight material (usually titanium). The carriage turns 360 degrees at regular intervals (usually once per minute). The fourth wheel (not shown) is fixed and is concentric with the carriage pinion and arbor. The escape wheel pinion meshes with the fourth wheel and rotates around the fourth wheel in the fashion of a satellite. The escape wheel and lever are mounted on the carriage, and the third wheel (not shown) drives the carriage pinion, turning the carriage once every minute. This rotation of the escapement helps reduce the positional errors of a watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted May 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 If I charged $2000 for this, it wouldn't make the escapement into a Tourbillion ... That's a far cry from the ebay watch--the ebay watch may be a normal escapement disquised as a tourbillon (which is what I think) but doesn't look anything like the exposed-escapement "tourbillons" in reps like the ones you posted. But Lollipo's certainly prove there is a central tourbillon being manufactured in chine, and that's pretty exciting. If those prices come down to the level of the flying tourbillon (5-6 franklins) it opens up a whole new world to rep makers--imagine all the gorgeous "tourbillon reps you passed on because the tourbillon was phony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 imagine all the gorgeous "tourbillon reps you passed on because the tourbillon was pony? I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jens Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Here's another one, might be the same type as shown in spock's link: &TypeCode=8" target="_blank">http://www.finertimes.com/asp/watches/quer...e=&TypeCode=8 jens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvn Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Eddie Lee listed a Chronoswiss Tourbillion a short while back. it is very nice watch, what Tourbillion generation was that?Does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossanti Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 For sure I dont like it at all...I can get tourbullion ..not more than USD100...all is not worth it .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vric Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Maybe I'm a bit nervous, but didn't it scare you to buy a $2000 rep that no one can repair ? The last time I have read about Tourbillon, The Zigmeister didn't had a clue what was wrong on one he had to fix... Not quite encouraging... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Looks like one of the new tourbillons has appeared on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-1-Min-REAL-Centre-...1QQcmdZViewItem Here's a video of a gen Richard Mille tourbillon spinning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LsCZNtYv9c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted May 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Maybe I'm a bit nervous, but didn't it scare you to buy a $2000 rep that no one can repair ? The last time I have read about Tourbillon, The Zigmeister didn't had a clue what was wrong on one he had to fix... Not quite encouraging... Absolutely...not to mention the impossibility of getting parts. But this must be wighed against the addiction which if I saw, say, an accurate Muller Long island tourbillon would be screaming, "Must have this. Now." At 2k I'd probably say nope. But at just under a grand there's no way I could resist. What I like about the new tourbillon is that it's apparently a center tourbillon which is far more common in high end gens than the flying tourbillon (a gear that runs along the inner edge of the cage) that we've seen in a few reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Here's a video of a gen Richard Mille tourbillon spinning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LsCZNtYv9c I'm hypnotised.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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