b16a2 Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hi, pretty new to Panerai, have searched this website and with this model Im thinking about pulling the trigger. Is the crown guard meant to be brushed on this model? Looks like the pin is pretty good, doesnt look too recessed? Are there any other things I should be aware of? http://perfect-clones.com/product_info.php?products_id=783 Something about these Pams I'm really starting to like, and want my first one to be the most accurate. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 I think its still recessed, but I may be wrong, and Id like to be wrong, as Andrew is so trusty and worthy action dealer And yes, 111h does have brushed CG, while the case is polished. Also as I know the H movement shouldnt be engraved. As its in Panerai latest catalogue presenting correct OP XI calibre. Anyway new thicker crown, relume, new strap and your 111h is quite accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premiumdesigners Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 yep, relume, pin and crown is all you need on a 111h swan neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitime Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 yep, relume, pin and crown is all you need on a 111h swan neck close, but two things still remain deficient: 1) engraving on caseback is not in the same font as the original 2) bridges are too "rough" and not like the more nicely polished original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 close, but two things still remain deficient: 1) engraving on caseback is not in the same font as the original 2) bridges are too "rough" and not like the more nicely polished original. Correct.. if you have seen a genuine Panerai movement it look SO SO different than the rep one. Even the new with the swan neck is still far from the genuine finish. So if you compare it side by side with a genuine you can ALWAYS find out the rep by looking at the movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancelot Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 All reps have some flaws but this 111 is a great watch even with the flaws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 (edited) I like the H series better because of the sandwich dial. I do not know what are in these PAMs, I never liked them four months ago, now I have four, and another one on the way Edited June 7, 2006 by HighDef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitime Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I like the H series better because of the sandwich dial. I do not know what are in these PAMs, I never liked them four months ago, now I have four, and another one on the way That's how the addiction always begins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos Nana Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 "Still the recess Pin" I think you guys should start to accept that this will never be achieve out of rep factories. All Pannies will have the Pin Recessed.. Why is it recess in the first place ? it is due to the 9.00 subdial needle, if needles are install flushed the clearance of the hour and minutes to clear the 9.00 sub sec hand is very little .. Even you modify it, it will work ok only for while.. I have tried this on my own and I think so have many others. There is no way that it will be flushed. It involves precision parts to have it flush.. Every different dial surface requires different tolerance, Reps are using common universal parts...more fogiving parts. The recess pin is due to installation based on bigger tolerance values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossanti Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 The legend ..I like it so much ,,one day ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonton2000 Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 "Still the recess Pin" I think you guys should start to accept that this will never be achieve out of rep factories. All Pannies will have the Pin Recessed.. Why is it recess in the first place ? it is due to the 9.00 subdial needle, if needles are install flushed the clearance of the hour and minutes to clear the 9.00 sub sec hand is very little .. Even you modify it, it will work ok only for while.. I have tried this on my own and I think so have many others. There is no way that it will be flushed. It involves precision parts to have it flush.. Every different dial surface requires different tolerance, Reps are using common universal parts...more fogiving parts. The recess pin is due to installation based on bigger tolerance values. A very honest and sensilbe reply. Honestly i wish we could get all reps dead on, but just take a moment to think back to even a year ago, and compare it to what we have now. We've come a long, long way baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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